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Formed in 2009, the Archive Team (not to be confused with the archive.org Archive-It Team) is a rogue archivist collective dedicated to saving copies of rapidly dying or deleted websites for the sake of history and digital heritage. The group is 100% composed of volunteers and interested parties, and has expanded into a large amount of related projects for saving online and digital history.

History is littered with hundreds of conflicts over the future of a community, group, location or business that were "resolved" when one of the parties stepped ahead and destroyed what was there. With the original point of contention destroyed, the debates would fall to the wayside. Archive Team believes that by duplicated condemned data, the conversation and debate can continue, as well as the richness and insight gained by keeping the materials. Our projects have ranged in size from a single volunteer downloading the data to a small-but-critical site, to over 100 volunteers stepping forward to acquire terabytes of user-created data to save for future generations.

The main site for Archive Team is at archiveteam.org and contains up to the date information on various projects, manifestos, plans and walkthroughs.

This collection contains the output of many Archive Team projects, both ongoing and completed. Thanks to the generous providing of disk space by the Internet Archive, multi-terabyte datasets can be made available, as well as in use by the Wayback Machine, providing a path back to lost websites and work.

Our collection has grown to the point of having sub-collections for the type of data we acquire. If you are seeking to browse the contents of these collections, the Wayback Machine is the best first stop. Otherwise, you are free to dig into the stacks to see what you may find.

The Archive Team Panic Downloads are full pulldowns of currently extant websites, meant to serve as emergency backups for needed sites that are in danger of closing, or which will be missed dearly if suddenly lost due to hard drive crashes or server failures.

Collection: ArchiveBot: The Archive Team Crowdsourced Crawler
ArchiveBot is an IRC bot designed to automate the archival of smaller websites (e.g. up to a few hundred thousand URLs). You give it a URL to start at, and it grabs all content under that URL, records it in a WARC, and then uploads that WARC to ArchiveTeam servers for eventual injection into the Internet Archive (or other archive sites).

To use ArchiveBot, drop by #archivebot on EFNet. To interact with ArchiveBot, you issue commands by typing it into the channel. Note you will need channel operator permissions in order to issue archiving jobs. The dashboard shows the sites being downloaded currently.

There is a dashboard running for the archivebot process at http://www.archivebot.com.

ArchiveBot's source code can be found at https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot.

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    1. foone‏ @Foone Oct 6

      You ever see something on ebay that's so rare and unheard of (I don't even think this thing ever got released!) and goes so against accepted history that your first reaction is "is that some kind of weird fake?" and your second reaction is "holy shit, bid!"

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    2. foone‏ @Foone Oct 6

      well that happened this morning in my saved searches. and no way in hell am I linking to the auction until I have it in my hands

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    3. foone‏ @Foone Oct 6

      the only hints I'll give are ones that won't let you find it: it appears to be a dev unit that ties two canceled computer industry projects together, and doesn't match either of them exactly, implying there was another phase of the history that we didn't know about until now

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    4. foone‏ @Foone Oct 6

      so I am, of course, exceptionally excited to get ahold of it and document how it works. and if there was a "buy it now" option I'd already be showing you pictures.

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    5. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

      so, update: I didn't get it. It sold for quite a bit past my price range, probably & hopefully because I was bidding against a museum or two. BEHOLD!pic.twitter.com/JSvrIlwWPp

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      foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

      So what the fuck is that? well, let's answer the easy part. The floppy is a 3.25" Flex Diskette. Those are a rare floppy disk type that was designed as a sort of compromise for how to make a 3/3.5" disk: instead of making a whole new disk, why not just shrink the 5.25"?pic.twitter.com/F9Qsq3CvSP

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        2. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          that's what Dysan thought, since they already were making 5.25" disks. They added a central hub, but otherwise it's basically just a 5.25" disk. This was proposed as the New Disk, before the Sony model was chosen.

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        3. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          so the 3.25" is a sort of prototype disk and it's kinda amazing I have one at all. Supposedly they did see one use, in the Seequa Chameleon 325, an obscure variant of an obscure portable Z80/8088 PC.

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        4. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          So unless you find one of those rare portables, you're not finding a drive for a 3.25" Flex Diskette... and this is an external drive. so it's definitely from something else. So either we're wrong about what used it, or it's a prototype of something that never came out

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        5. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          but the label makes it even weirder: Tabor.

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        6. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          So IBM was working on a 4" disk drive in the early 80s, which they called the DemiDiskette eventually. It was canceled before coming out.pic.twitter.com/HoPjtRaSGp

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        7. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          But you know what they labeled the drives when they were first showing them at trade shows? Tabor!

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        8. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          and there were pre-release versions of the Tabor disks that looked nothing like the "final" one. I've got one!pic.twitter.com/6urZIHNG9a

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        9. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          so, either: 1. this is a massive coincidence and Dysan decided to name their disks the same as upcoming IBM disks 2. It's a hoax someone is playing on floppy disk historians (all 5 of us) 3. Dysan at one point worked with IBM on Tabor prototype

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        10. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          but as far as I can tell, until this auction showed up, there was no hint of any Dysan disk called "Tabor" and no hint Dysan & IBM had worked together on any version of the DemiDiskette.

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        11. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          So, the auction pictures. The back seems to have some card edge connector, and an external power plug.pic.twitter.com/A3IR1IyTbv

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        12. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          The label seems to say TLC or TTC Tabor. Anyone recognize that logo? it also looks like it might be some kind of sticker, which'd make sense if it's a prototype.pic.twitter.com/0QkNbqYQCI

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        13. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          The disk definitely matches the Dysan Flex Diskette, other than the label. Interesting that the recorder number is "3251". The final one says 802950pic.twitter.com/b7MvhHRDOj

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        14. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          The auction does give a hint as to where this came from, which makes no sense at all. This came from the Estate of CB Wilson, who worked for Texas Instruments from 1967-2000.

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        15. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          so what the fuck does TI have to do with this? who knows.

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        16. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          anyway the ended auction is here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1980s-RARE-TABOR-IIC-3-1-4-034-FLEX-DISKETTE-Disk-Drive-CB-Wilson-Estate-/203129773006?nma=true&si=PA19jki%252BreqIzp12UxaDJrtKSIo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 …

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        17. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          I'm gonna see if I can message the winner to make sure we're in contact, because I'd love to see what's inside this and any additional info they have.

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        18. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          there's some weirdness going on with the auction. since it ended, they relisted it twice, deleting the first one, and then relisting it as "for glimminge only". glimminge is the person who won the first auction, and I think they re-listed it because of international shipping

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        19. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          the seller's in texas, and glimminge is in Germany somewhere.

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        20. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          anyway I've messaged them now.

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        21. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          foone Retweeted Patrycja

          and @ptrcnull pointed out that the logo is the same as the one on the TC500 drive, which I really should remember because I OWN ONEhttps://twitter.com/ptrcnull/status/1316015010758320130 …

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          Patrycja @ptrcnull
          Replying to @Foone
          It looks like the same logo is on TC500, which you posted 2 years ago: https://twitter.com/foone/status/991063360455131138 … pic.twitter.com/tEhYyM1KvR
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        22. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          which suggests it's related to Tabor Corporation, which was founded in 1982 and dissolved in 2000: So maybe it is just a coincidence? Tabor built drives for Dysan's 3.25" Flex Diskettes.pic.twitter.com/KIy2JW2oEY

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        23. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          A mention in Byte from October 1984 says that Tabor was only making 3.25" drives for the past year, before adding a 3.5" drivepic.twitter.com/vkZazCkEMM

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        24. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          This does add some other interesting info: Educational Microcomputer Systems had announced a 3.25" system but was changing it to 3.5", and General Scientific Corporation was shipping workstations with 3.25" drives.

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        25. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          So maybe this is from a workstation from General Scientific?

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        26. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          BTW another possibility is that there's no IBM connection at all. The "fact" that the IBM disks were called "Tabor" at some trade shows has a [citation needed] on it and there don't seem to be any mentions of that on the web that don't relate back to wikipedia

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        27. foone‏ @Foone Oct 13

          so maybe the DemiDiskette was never called Tabor in the first place and this is just someone misremembering something from 40 years ago and stuffing it into wikipedia

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