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Here is the full text of an e-mail sent out this morning, courtesy of NewsForge:
Thank you for being a Red Hat Network customer.
This e-mail provides you with important information about the upcoming discontinuation of Red Hat Linux, and resources to assist you with your migration to another Red Hat solution.
As previously communicated, Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December 31, 2003. Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release another product in the Red Hat Linux line.
With the recent announcement of Red Hat Enterprise Linux v.3, you'll find migrating to Enterprise Linux appealing. We understand that transitioning to another Red Hat solution requires careful planning and implementation. We have created a migration plan for Red Hat Network customers to help make the transition as simple and seamless as possible. Details:
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If you purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic before February 28, 2004, you will receive 50% off the price for two years.[*] (That's two years for the price of one.)
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In addition, we have created a Red Hat Linux Migration Resource Center to address your migration planning and other questions, such as:
* What are best practices for implementing the migration to Red Hat Enterprise Linux?
* Are there other migration alternatives?
* How do I purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic at the price above?
* What if my paid subscription to RHN extends past April 30, 2004?
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Find out more about your migration options with product comparisons, whitepapers and documentation at the Red Hat Linux Migration Resource Center.Or read the FAQ written especially for Red Hat Network customers:
Sincerely,
Red Hat, Inc.
[*] Limit 10 units. Higher volume purchase inquiries should contact a regional Red Hat sales representative. Contact numbers available at http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn
--the Red Hat Network Team
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Grover Righter 03/27/05 11:34:53 PM EST | |||
After 18 months of living on FreeBSD only (and loving it - a great UN*X), I had to install Linux on a laptop in order to run several Java apps. I installed Fedora FC3r4, which seems to be a pretty good OS. Installs and runs well. Funny thing though - there is no documentation. I thought at first I was just incompetent, but I looked at all the CDs and searched the RD Fedora site. Here is all they have for DOCs: There is no standard user documentation. And since RH (Fedora) uses many custom admin commands, you really need some docs. Also, they rename all the redhat-xxx-xxx commands as system-xxx-xxx. Once you figure it out, not hard to make it work. - Grover Righter |
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Zoue 12/19/04 09:32:09 AM EST | |||
Great! |
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P4Hyperthreader 09/10/04 05:24:33 AM EDT | |||
ism's are not at fault here. In case you have not noticed we all live in a potientially homogeneous world that dilutes everyday. The big fish are eating the little fish and the guppies are scared of consumption. Change and diversity are the greatest motivators known to mankind. The next greatest server is on the horizon because a group of young intelects are in need of something more powerful and nothing out there right know meets their needs. But its the not knowing for sure that spawn this dialogue. Have faith in the future for it will quickly be the present! |
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Nifty Pickle 06/08/04 02:24:47 PM EDT | |||
I don't know anything about Linux. I have no clue what any of you are talking about. |
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SnipeCivilians 05/20/04 09:30:23 AM EDT | |||
Strafe wrote Whilst capitalism may be your preferred system (even if you're not sure what it is) i believe the main idea of socialism is that the workers DO get paid for their efforts, which in pure capitalist terms is left to the market. in effect, the least possible pay. The idea of doing some work without a profit motive is not new. Christ seemed to be willing to share some ideas without a direct business benefit, and he promoted sharing in a big way. Electricity technology in the main is in the public domain because all the work was done by a philanthropist, who did not patent all his work, but made his discoveries freely available (for the glory of God, apparently.) I am in debt to the free software movement for giving me some choices in understanding software without the ruinous effect of business making it impossibly expensive to operate and explore (legally, anyhow). As for Red Hat, it is a business issue. if it is a good call, they will prosper. if not, they probably won't. Thats the best thing about capitalism. (when it is not totally corrupted by money influencing goverment, anyhow) |
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dave 04/08/04 10:24:36 PM EDT | |||
I've got my holes dug in the back yard. So long RH. Good buy MS! I've got my eye on a really nice pad of paper and a wonderful pen ! |
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jj 02/13/04 09:35:23 AM EST | |||
Anyone who abandons customers in the way Redhat has done |
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Randy Poznan 12/19/03 02:33:29 PM EST | |||
Redhat is starting to become a necessary evil. We are migrating to Oracle on Itanium. Support sucks so far they shipped us Enterprise linux for x86 after we ordered the Itanium edition. To get our itanium copy we had to buy another license from them cause we have other x86 dev servers or something. Whatever I dont understand there licensing I thought the license was a support contract or something. My first taste of the corporate Linux experience was not good. Next time Redhat starts dissing anything for not being under GNU license or marching to the governments steps I think im going to PUKE. |
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rambo 11/25/03 09:00:56 PM EST | |||
Strafe: Just for the record, how many NDA's have you signed with M$ in the course of supporting your Windows servers? Did you know that many of the bugs that are fixed in service packs are NOT documented? Did you know that M$ has to protect some of its support tools they give out with NDA's? Feel free to contact Bill Hollingshead at MS SQL Server support and ask about these. MS is not doing you a favor by hiding the source. They are struggling to remain a viable alternative in the face of actual competition. They will grip tighter and tighter the more afraid they become. You'll see this in more restrictive licenses, mandatory upgrades, and software rentals. If you're ok with this, fine. Communism is when the people are complacent with the collective making decisions for them. Democracy is when the people make the decisions for themselves. It's about choice, not money. |
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Zombie 11/24/03 04:03:13 AM EST | |||
I use Fedora Core 1. I like their function in my pc like the Red hat 9.(I dare to say that I sit down it much better than red hat) |
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Strafe 11/19/03 07:37:31 PM EST | |||
BTW. I applaud Red Hat's decision. It is about time that Linux OS developers and support personnel started getting "professional" status as opposed to being viewed as glorified hobbyists. This also adds legitimacy to RHEL in the eyes of Corporate America. This will further their inroads into the server OS market. WANTED: Open Source Developers and Support Staff for Linux. Must be oncall 24x7x365 to support business customers. Must meet all their needs and provide full Microsoft compatibility for our Corporate Customers. We expect 100% from you but offer no salary. Wow! Sounds like great job! Not! You would never even consider applying for job like that yet you give Red Hat a hard time for "selling out"? For how long did you expect Red Hat to keep giving everything away for FREE? They are a business and businesses exist to make money. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Strafe 11/19/03 07:36:45 PM EST | |||
BTW. I applaud Red Hat's decision. It is about time that Linux OS developers and support personnel started getting "professional" status as opposed to being viewed as glorified hobbyists. This also adds legitimacy to RHEL in the eyes of Corporate America. This will further their inroads into the server OS market. WANTED: Open Source Developers and Support Staff for Linux. Must be oncall 24x7x365 to support business customers. Must meet all their needs and provide full Microsoft compatibility for our Corporate Customers. We expect 100% from you but offer no salary. Wow! Sounds like great job! Not! You would never even consider applying for job like that yet you give Red Hat a hard time for "selling out"? For how long did you expect Red Hat to keep giving everything away for FREE? They are a business and businesses exist to make money. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Strafe 11/19/03 07:22:53 PM EST | |||
Choice. Listen to the hobbyist politicos whine about choice. Ever work in an IT shop? Do you think your Telephonic and Deskside PC Support staff want to support a myriad of word processors, spreadsheets, OS's and applications? Of course NOT. Too much to know and not enough time. "Oh, sorry Mister Director of Marketing, you have to check your glib version to see if it matches that called for in the .o object files from the new version of that Project management software you are running on SuSe." Yeah. Any support team wants to focus there efforts on one application in any category for a variety of reasons. Do you really want your Marketing Group running one word processor and your Communications Group using another? Choices are good in a corporate environment? While MS has its problems, it also has the TechNET, MSDN and online resources that dwarf anything in the Linux community. They are very forthcoming about problems (even if they have lots of them!). If MS fell off the planet tomorrow and Linux became the desktop standard using OpenOffice, you would all become disgruntled because its a "monopoly" and "everyone is using it". Its a psychological thing, not a practical thing. You find some other "niche" OS to rant and rave as the next coming (BeOS?) and deride Linux as selling out. Hey, how about that MrProject? MS-Project clone for Linux. So how is that coming along? Last update was some time ago. And if my company were running on it (we would not pay the developer a penny because this is the OpenSource revolution remember, software and the effort to produce/support it should be FREE, FREE, FREE) how do we get support? What if the sole guy developing it was on vacation or died or quit? OpenSource is software communism. To think that software developers should not get paid and be rewarded for their efforts is purely socialism at the digital level. Hey, here's a thought! How about all you Linux Zealots quit your jobs and work solely on OpenSource? You won't get paid since the expectation is that it should all be free. After the first mortgage payment is due or your child needs to visit the doctor, your common sense will return. For the record, I run Windows XP, OSX Panther and Red Hat Linux at home. I have lots of experience with them all. Each has their merits. I personally feel that OSX offers the best of Microsoft and Linux. But reality in the corporate world dictates otherwise. It's all about money folks. And if you don't like capitalism, North Korea probably has lots of space for OpenSource communists. :-) |
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Strafe 11/19/03 07:05:36 PM EST | |||
"Red Hat Linux .... you are terminated." There is no such thing as a free lunch. Linux has splintered into those who will pay (which is no better than Windows) and those who will not pay for software and/or support. The Linux community has an OS now. You must next attack the cash cow. Microsoft Office. Too many groups are doing there own thing taking away from any concentrated attempt to make inroads into the Office Suite market. Corporate users don't care about the OS (only power user hobbyists with political grudges). They care about getting their work done and that means the applications. You must provide them with a FREE office suite. So far we have ThinkOffice, OpenOffice, StarOffice, GnomeOffice....why so many? As in the corporate world, only one will win. Why not take the best of all those and make ONE office suite and have everyone focus on that?!?! It is the only way to compete with Microsoft Office. Red Hat Linux = $149 (box set) + $96 (RHN) + $1,400 SCO License = about $1,650 per Linux server (assuming single processor too!!!!) Windows 2003 server = $482 (Enterprise License cost) Hmmm.........in a corporate environment, Linux is far from FREE. Just because hobbyists can download it free does not mean that is what a large corporation is going to do. They want/need accountability and support. Linux, with all its distributions, legal issues (SCO) and lack of corporate quality software, has literally become the "Tower of OS Babel". It was off to such a promising start too. Quite a shame actually. Still not to late to turn it around though. |
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Tired one 11/19/03 11:21:24 AM EST | |||
Not on the subject but maybe I can improve someone´s life here. |
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Jim 11/18/03 03:15:35 PM EST | |||
How about Apple Computer and it's single license server for unlimited use. How does this compare to Redhat fee? If you are going to pay, which would you rather pay for. As far as open source is concerned, Apple OSX is based on Free BSD. |
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David L 11/17/03 12:46:49 AM EST | |||
To netboy541, I found some from Fedora's Web page. netboy541, your concept may be wrong : |
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netboy541 11/16/03 09:44:09 PM EST | |||
i'm just really really concerned that sence Fedora is a "new" os, that it will have the same disastorous effects every "new" os has, and crash crash crash.... I must admit, I am absolutely LIVID that RH has pretty much been buried alive, but who am I. I'm just the little guy out there running RH9 on all my machines, except for one. I started with RH6.1 and kept on plugging away... Now I have RH down for the most part, and they just yank the rug out from under me. I am really mad because I paid for the errata support, and they are acting like "Well we will knock off some money on this, if you give us some more money" As I told my Dad, It's starting to sound more and more like Bill has his hands in this one, although I know that's not the case. I'm pretty sure tho the boys in Redmond where throwin a party when they heard about this. I work with computers, and I have sence I was 8 years old. I have used, implemented, and toyed with linux for years. I've tried RH, Debian, Suse, and a few others over the years, and I stuck with redhat because I could understand it, and I liked it. I hate Microsoft with a bloody passion, but I have to tolerate it, because in Corporate America, Microsoft is the king for the most part. All I can say is I feel like RedHat has thrown all of it's loyal users out in the cold. It's like a divorce or something. I wonder if I can run my apache server and mail and all the things that made RH great -- on this "Fedora Project" --- Geeze -- sounds like something off of The Outer Limits or something.... |
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Sea Dragon 11/15/03 07:34:59 AM EST | |||
I found that from Fedora Site You right, everyone have different favior. Also, "I do as I need , not because of others." Life is fun and Happy and no angry. Cheers |
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Fun 11/15/03 07:09:10 AM EST | |||
For me, I use SUSE and RH before. Start from RH 5, I use it as my server & desktop. And swith one be one through 6.0, 7.2 ....., 9.0. Well, I found that both of them are Same in the past version. For my personel view, I prefer RedHat as my desktop. But now I will change to use Fedora version. Although some people may not want it, doesn't matter because every people have different favior. I found that : - Fedora is fast growing and most update, So if you need production version, you may not suitible to use it. You may change your Linux workstation/server to higher version RHWS or RH Enterprise Linux. They are stable more supportable. Or just change to other Linux distributor, such as Debian or SUSE... Those are Linux and those are good. But for mine, it doesn't matter, I want Fedora version. I like to see how it is good or not and need how to improve. I like ir because it has online update and far close to new update software - new/update feature. That's the one I want to use. |
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Syam Pillai 11/15/03 01:39:29 AM EST | |||
I started using Linux with RH versions. I have purchased, installed, used, deployed (in different environments) and taught (so many people still call me for free support!) every RH Professional release from 5 onwards still 7.3. When I bought RH 8.0, I realized that they created a proprietory desktop interface (my fave is alsways KDE from version 2.0 onwards, because it was easier to ask M$ users to switch by demoing KDE to them. In fact, I helped hundreds of M$ users to switch to Linux) it is time to look for an alternative. Even after installing RH8 on one of my machines, I bought SuSE8.1. Now, I have the latest SuSE9.0 running everywhere and I love their Yast and YOU! Hope, they don't follow the RH route, now, after the merger with Novell. |
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Sea Dragon 11/14/03 10:49:19 AM EST | |||
"SCO" decision maker make the whole SCO group far away from Linux society and get Money from M$ to attack Linux society. It is so upset. |
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David L 11/13/03 08:46:33 PM EST | |||
To Marja, Plaese don't connect "SCO" to Linux Society directly. [SUSE with Novell] and [RedHat] and IBM are doing the business that started from the beginning, now and the future. What's wrong. The main point is they contribute their efforts to Linux society. No one can say it is wrong. |
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Steve M. 11/13/03 05:30:15 PM EST | |||
How about marketshare change? |
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Marja 11/13/03 02:59:13 PM EST | |||
Hello, It will be just like the SUSE -> Novell story. Marja |
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Grover Righter 11/10/03 06:54:59 PM EST | |||
Updated Price Information from Red Hat: This information was copied directly from the Red Hat Network products site. I would like to update everyone because some of the prior information was misleading (including mine). I –think- you can get a server distribution of Linux from RH for $799 plus $222.50 per year. I still can’t tell if online update support is included for the first year, but I think it is. Corrections: [2] As far as I can tell, the product you should buy if you have a server is the $222.50 per-server-per-year (PSPY) product. This is almost 4 times the former lowest price of $60 PSPY. I have read the descriptions and there is still some ambiguity, but I would recommend “Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES Basic Edition with Management Service” if you have a real server and need electronic support. Note that the $174.50 is marked as a ‘special price’ good only for a few months. [3] Support prices for Workstations (WS) are shocking to me. It looks like the floor cost is $137.50 PWPY (Per Workstation Per Year). Note that the cheaper $89.50 price is also marked as a short term special. So here it is boys and girls – the latest support info from RH. =================================== * 50% discount promotional price expires February 29th, 2004. Learn more about RHEL migration and this special offer. ** IMPORTANT NOTE - Purchase of an RHN Management Entitlement does not allow access to RHEL content without an active RHEL subscription. Purchase of this offering without a RHEL subscription will only allow the subscriber access to the RHL channels, which reach End of Life on April 30, 2004. Learn more about the RHL End of Life policy. *** IMPORTANT NOTE - This specially discounted product will expire April 30, 2004. Customers purchasing this entitlement will not receive a full year subscription, nor will they receive access to RHEL content. Only RHL content is provided through this subscription. Learn more about the RHL End of Life policy. More on RH End Of Life Policy The Red Hat Security Resource Center contains more information including details on how to contact us about security issues. Errata Support Period To facilitate customer maintenance cycles, Red Hat Enterprise Linux will be supported via errata updates. These Updates will contain security, bug fix and enhancement errata that has been qualified on the appropriate Red Hat Enterprise Linux release and architecture. The scope of enhancement errata is constrained to additional hardware support. Security errata will be the only errata released independent of the Updates. Red Hat Linux -- Red Hat's policy for Red Hat Linux distributions is to provide maintenance for at least 12 months. At certain times, Red Hat may extend errata maintenance for certain popular releases of the operating system. End of Life dates for errata maintenance for currently supported products are listed below: Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike) April 30, 2004 |
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Steve M. 11/10/03 12:54:10 PM EST | |||
A redhat representative has offered a prorated refund on the remainder of my subscriptions. I believe that redhat would like to move their customers to theur new pricing structure but are willing to work with those who want to leave. |
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Sea Dragon 11/10/03 10:10:20 AM EST | |||
To Fun, Support infromation found in here. But This level of support is opportunistic — no guarantees, warranties, or Service Level Agreements apply. Well, I think you see the original information is better. For my point of view only: Life is fun and Happy and no angry. Cheers |
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Fun 11/10/03 03:48:55 AM EST | |||
I look at its site and found that Fedore still have support. Still need time to investiagte. Please look at fedora - their site directly : Fedora objective is too long, I don't post here. I only interest to Fedora's non-objective, post it as follow. (Go to their site to look) Hope all of you can go to Fedora's site to look at what is their object and what they will do and what they will not do. |
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robin 11/10/03 03:15:37 AM EST | |||
yes, that's the way Redhat. I was pretty amazed that redhat could provide free support. It just doesnt make sense. Somehow, Redhat is a commercialized company. They need to earn money to survive. Afterall technology wont survive without funding. But i read somewhere that Redhat wont patch fedora nomore. I was pretty sad. Hopefully there is some way to solve about this patching. There is no problem if no support watsoever. But at least bug fixing shold at least be done, if not fedore is counting time to die. And if redhat still host server for fedora repositry, we should be gratefull. What redhat done is enought. They provide space to host comunity and fedora distro. |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 10:24:39 AM EST | |||
* To fun, It is so interesting that emotion used by someone. M$ will so happy except Linux society. |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 10:23:30 AM EST | |||
To fun, It is so interesting that emotion used by someone. M$ will so heppy except Linux society. |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 10:12:59 AM EST | |||
It is so interesting. Someone want us back to M$ ro purchase expensive software and no choice in later on because good software are disappeared. It is so interesting that someone encourage us to do the wrong thing. So interesting. ha ha ha |
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Fun 11/09/03 10:05:14 AM EST | |||
To cfmcginnis : You feel no hope and back to M$. May be you are right because you want all people to use M$ software and hope M$ continue monoploy in the feature. Everyone no choose to use expensive and good marketingable software. No choose in later on because of every good software disappear because of monolopy then you and M$ will happy expect Linux society. |
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cfmcginnis 11/09/03 09:07:09 AM EST | |||
I've been a software soldier since switching for Windows to Linux in 1996. The enemy was MicroSoft. The reason, to break the development gridlock imposed by Bill Gates's authoritarian will on the user community. Even though it's been a long long battle, my hope for a legitimate alternative to the Windows empire continued to flourish. My branch of service was RED HAT. Their software is more stable, economical, less maintenance, and most importantly, starting to compete on the desk top front. I'm preaching to the quire now, I know. |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 02:07:37 AM EST | |||
To : Phil For my view only, SO, such as I said before, For my view only, |
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Phil 11/09/03 01:56:29 AM EST | |||
To Sea Dragon, I'm not angry, I'm just stating my own opinion... I am not claiming to be familiar with Fedora, and due to the enormous price tag, I know that I never will be. But, if it ever came down to it, I know I can always switch over to FreeBSD. |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 01:39:15 AM EST | |||
There are a problems to submit the whole statement and |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 01:38:05 AM EST | |||
Is something different? Are RH really want to own Linux without Kernel? Can they do that? Why "Fedora Core" will allow outside people to distribute "Fedora Core"? "Fedora Core" make something wrong???? What's happen? Can discuss? Life is fun and Happy and no angry. Chee |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 01:37:37 AM EST | |||
To Phil, "RedHat is trying to treat an Open Source OS as if they were the ones who created it and that they have been in control of the source code all along (i.e Microsoft, Solaris)" But I find some docs from Fedora in the bellowing : |
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Phil 11/09/03 01:35:44 AM EST | |||
WOW! Am I glad I switched from decaf (RedHat) to regular (SuSE) when I did... Ever since RedHat announced that they were going public on Wall Street, I then realized that they were no longer about Open Source, but about PROFIT! The one thing that seems to have been forgotten is why Linux was created in the fisrt place. Re-read the initial post that a guy by the name of Linus Torvalds made several years ago when he initially RELEASED Linux to the general public for FREE... You do remember Mr. Torvalds, don't you, or have you forgotten? I originally started using Slackware when Linux was barely at Kernel 1.2; At that time I was completely amazed that I was able to purchase an entire UNIX-like OS with plenty of extras for under thirty bucks... and I'm still amazed that I can buy SuSE 9.0 professional with all of its extensive packages for 1/3 the price of Windows XP Professional... not to mention the fact that I don't need a license key to use it. My point is that RedHat is trying to treat an Open Source OS as if they were the ones who created it and that they have been in control of the source code all along (i.e Microsoft, Solaris) I could go on-and-on, but I think I said all I need to say. It is not my intention to offend anyone, all I am trying to do is provide my own opinion. Last time I checked, I still live in the FREE world. Let's keep it that way! |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 01:35:23 AM EST | |||
Is something different? Are RH really want to own Linux without Kernel? Can they do that? Why "Fedora Core" will allow outside people to distribute "Fedora Core"? "Fedora Core" make something wrong???? What's happen? Can discuss? Life is fun and Happy and no angry. Cheers |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 01:35:01 AM EST | |||
To Phil, "RedHat is trying to treat an Open Source OS as if they were the ones who created it and that they have been in control of the source code all along (i.e Microsoft, Solaris)" But I find some docs from Fedora in the bellowing : |
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Sea Dragon 11/09/03 01:20:25 AM EST | |||
To Grover Righter, Answer still not clear from RH actually really want to do? What is this? Still have support but changed??? Life is fun and Happy and no angry. Cheers |
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Grover Righter 11/08/03 11:54:25 PM EST | |||
I sent an inquiry to RH Support asking if the two support contracts I bought in September would expire in April - and if so, do I get a refund. I post their answer here without interpretation :-) Good Afternoon, We are not discontinuing support for RHL, just RH8 in December and RH9 in April. From April through the remainder of your contract you will be given access to the RHEL WS channel for updates. In addition, if you choose to use the Fedora Project release, we will be strongly supporting the development of this RHL platform. If you would like to test the WS platform, then you can continue with your entitlement as it is and you will receive access to this channel from April through the end of your contract. At that time, you can choose to take a look at the Red Hat Professional workstation which is now selling in retail stores (come with 1 year of RHN included) or the Fedora Project release (details can be found at fedora.redhat.com). If you decide that you do not want to evaluate the WS product after April, then you may wish to send a request to terminate your RHN entitlement now so you can purchase one of the discounted entitlements offered online now at rhn.redhat.com for $20 which will offer you support through the end of life for support of RH9. I hope this has made things a little more clear, but if you have any addtional questions, please feel free to call us anytime via 888-REDHAT-1, Ext 41042 M-F 9:30am-5:30pm EST. Thank you. Regards, ---- Original Message ---- User Login: xxxxxx Hi, I bought 2 system entitelments for RHN in September 2003 for RH Linux 9.0. Now, the news reports that this support will cease in April 2004. Will this support actually cease in April? I bought it for a year and was expecting to use it through next August. I now probably need to migrate to another platform since you are withdrawing from the Linux distribution market. Can I obtain a refund for one of my entitlements? I have not yet deployed that server and I don't want to set it up and turn on support if it is obselete in April as stated in news articles. Thanks. - Grover Righter |
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Sea Dragon 11/08/03 08:29:04 PM EST | |||
To Steve M. I use RH 9.0 and purchase from RedHat but I max use with up2date function and use Local & international linux groups. Well, may be my mistake, anyway, I work fine now and no problem. About you, I think that is responsibility and money issue with RH. May be ask for RedHat to find the solution. Life is fun and Happy and no angry. Cheers |
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Steve M. 11/08/03 02:14:15 PM EST | |||
Seadragon, Your missing the point of RHN. RHN is used by me to keep my systems up2date. To limit the possibilities of security breaches. I don't need help configuring or installing. RedHat's job is too make sure that supported packages function and patched as security flaws are detected. Local & international linux groups are good for configuration and package selection issues but not for doing the QA work that is required to keep exposed servers patched. Finally, yes this is about money...money paid for access to patched files for a production operating system. RedHat promissed a years worth of access to RedHat Network with the implication that RH 9 or a suitable successor would be available without increasing the cost durring the year. Eliminating the service without refunding a prorated amount of the money or without providing an equivellent or better service could constitute a criminal fraud. |
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Sea Dragon 11/08/03 12:57:37 PM EST | |||
TO Steve M. For me, I have one more option : Life is fun and Happy and no angry. Cheers |
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Sea Dragon 11/08/03 12:32:28 PM EST | |||
To Steve M. |
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Steve M. 11/08/03 11:44:01 AM EST | |||
Fedora is not a viable option for production systems. This is according to RedHat. Replacing RH9 with fedora is not acceptable. For those of us who have paid for subscriptions to redhat network with the expectation that redhat would provide timely updates to reduce security risks fedora is not acceptable. |
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By Pat Romanski ![]() Dec. 30, 2017 08:30 AM EST Reads: 14,900 |
By Liz McMillan ![]() Dec. 29, 2017 12:00 PM EST Reads: 3,097 |
By Liz McMillan ![]() Dec. 29, 2017 08:00 AM EST Reads: 3,166 |
By Pat Romanski ![]() Dec. 28, 2017 02:00 PM EST Reads: 4,164 |
By Liz McMillan ![]() Dec. 24, 2017 01:45 PM EST Reads: 2,178 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 23, 2017 10:00 AM EST Reads: 2,085 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 22, 2017 11:00 AM EST Reads: 1,682 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 18, 2017 03:45 PM EST Reads: 3,229 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 18, 2017 01:30 PM EST Reads: 3,265 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 18, 2017 01:00 PM EST Reads: 5,116 |
By Liz McMillan ![]() Dec. 17, 2017 04:00 PM EST Reads: 2,079 |
By Pat Romanski ![]() Dec. 17, 2017 02:00 PM EST Reads: 2,139 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 17, 2017 10:00 AM EST Reads: 2,258 |
By Liz McMillan ![]() Dec. 15, 2017 11:00 AM EST Reads: 3,049 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 14, 2017 04:00 PM EST Reads: 2,140 |
By Liz McMillan ![]() Dec. 14, 2017 11:45 AM EST Reads: 2,210 |
By Elizabeth White ![]() Dec. 14, 2017 11:00 AM EST Reads: 2,206 |