Interest rate hits 11-year high
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The Reserve Bank has raised the official interest rate by 0.25 per cent to an 11-year high of 6.75 per cent.
The announcement is the sixth interest rate rise since the last election and is the first-ever rate rise this close to a federal election.
The decision is expected to be a defining point in the final two-and-a-half weeks of the election campaign given the backdrop of the Coalition's pledge in 2004 to keep interest rates at record lows.
In a statement accompanying the decision, Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens cited a growing threat of inflation as the Board's key reason.
"Inflation in Australia has increased. Underlying inflation was 0.9 per cent in the September quarter and close to 3 per cent over the past year," he said.
"The annual pace of CPI inflation was lower, but this reflected two very low quarterly results nearly a year ago, as well as recent changes to the treatment of child care costs. By the March quarter of next year, both headline and underlying measures of inflation are likely to be above 3 per cent.
Mr Stevens said the board looked carefully at developments in global financial markets before reaching the decision.
"The world economy is still expected to grow at an above-average pace, however, led by strong growth in China and other parts of Asia. High global commodity prices remain an important source of stimulus to Australian spending and activity.
"In Australia, the tightening in credit conditions resulting from the global turmoil has been less pronounced than elsewhere. Wholesale funding costs have risen a little compared with official rates, and some borrowers have experienced an increase in interest costs as a result, but the flow of credit to sound borrowers does not appear to have been impaired."
The Australian dollar has jumped higher in response to the interest rate decision. A short time ago, it was being quoted at 93.08 US cents, which is up almost three-tenths of a cent.
Political fallout
Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd has told Southern Cross Radio the Government has added to the pressure on interest rates by failing to act in key areas.
"A core concern in shaping future interest rates is inflation," he said.
"Then you go on to the question of what determines inflation. And when it comes to the Reserve Bank's 20 warnings in recent years for the Government to do more when it comes to investment in skills in the economy, then that's basically the warning which the Government has ignored."
Coalition frontbencher Andrew Robb says despite the rate rise, voters will recognise it is the Coalition that has the experience to steer Australia through tough economic times.
"What Australia can't survive would be the wages breakout and then the interest rate breakout that would inevitably occur under Labor's industrial relation policy," he said.
"That is a real issue that is emerging as we talk about interest rates today and no doubt through the rest of the campaign."
Earlier, the Housing Industry Association warned that another rate rise will cripple Australian households who are already suffering under mortgage repayment stress.
Association chief economist Harley Dale said it would have undoubtedly been a difficult decision for the RBA to make.
"They're raising interest rates at a time when we have record low levels of housing affordability and a large number of households are financially in a stressful situation, in terms of meeting their mortgage repayments," he said.
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Jo:
07 Nov 2007 11:23:13am
Is it just coincidence that rates have risen more often since the workchoices were forced upon us than they did before? I think not!
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Jacky B:
07 Nov 2007 11:20:27am
I accept "world" factors and "drought" factors are contributing to higher interest rates. What I want to know is why things were not done to cushion this impact - and I would also like to know what H&C plan to do about it to stop it further spiraling. All I am hearing is "it would be worse under labor". That is not a plan, it's a cop out.
regardless of "official" inflation my weekly groceries have gone up by around 25%, fuel has risen about 40% since last election (remember when we were mad it it reaching $1.00/L). and now due to the IR policies we had to have, I miss out on penalties which has reduced by wage by 15%.
I am being hurt by these great economic managers...so I think I'll give someone else a go. I cant just keep going on like this, even if things don;t improve, at least the other team will give it a go instead of just resting on hurtful laurels.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Andrew:
07 Nov 2007 11:20:19am
Or if you want a history lesson,
Chart 1: RBA Home Loan Interest Rates
http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/BN/2007-08/Home_Loan_Interest_Rates.htm
Of course you could vote for another recession we have to have.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Tim:
07 Nov 2007 11:19:40am
Bottom line, Howard promised to keep interest rates at record lows, and he has failed in this promise. As a young new home owner, this will contine to squeze the budget of my family, particularily when combined with rising costs of childcare.
This completely puts both parties on the level concerning economic management in my view, there are many aspects to a good economy and clearly the coaltion has been missing some of them.
I say its time for someone else to give this a go, bring on a change.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Graeme:
07 Nov 2007 11:16:14am
I work for one of the major banks, have done for over 30 years and we we assess a home loan application we sensitize a borrowers capacity to service the borrowing at a rate 1.5% above the prevailing home loan rate at the time, for business this is 2.25% above the prevailing rate.
This gives an indication of a borrowers capacity to absorb an interest rate rise.
Therefore in isolation a 0.25% rate rate rise should not be the end of the world.
Where problems come is what the borrower has done since the time of their original application. I have seen it time and time again where they have gone ahead and taken on additional committments eg pay TV @ $100pm, broadband cost, mobile phone accounts they can't jump over and the GE card to get that wonderful "interest free" plasma TV.
People are committing beyond what they can afford - after they have taken out their home loan and we cannot be blaming the Howard Government for that.
However, if Rudd is given the chance, matters will only get worse, particularly if the unemployment rate rises.
Do not take a risk with him.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Andrew:
07 Nov 2007 11:22:31am
All those people that grabbed the last election paper bag from Howard and went and bought Plasma TVs instead of spending it on your kids like it was meant to be spent, this rate rise is on you!
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Eric:
07 Nov 2007 11:14:19am
Howards inability to manage the economy is reminiscent of his term as Treasurer, when he failed to modernise the Australian Economy. It took Keating as Treasurer to bring Australia into the todays world. The Howards mantra of being good economic managers is a con; the words are easy what takes real courage is actually doing what needs to be done. What Australia needs is a new management, it is long overdue!
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Andrew:
07 Nov 2007 11:12:11am
http://www.rba.gov.au/Statistics/cashrate_target.html
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G:
07 Nov 2007 11:11:37am
I don't own a house, I own investments.
This is great news!
A smirk crosses my face for all the pretentious 20-somethings who, 5 years ago, thought they were massing a property empire and attempted to waggle it in my face as 'the way to go.
Glad I didn't, and now your increased mortgage repayments are funding my holidays.
I guess all you kids with mortgages that you'll have until your mid 60's are gonna think harder about who you vote for this time round...
just a further note: I'm even MORE unclear why I need to buy a house. The majority of families in say, Europe, don't buy houses much at all - they all rent.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Robert Boyce:
07 Nov 2007 11:10:44am
Funny thing but this is one time ME TOO can't say me too to 6.75%. He remembers the 17%, So do we Kev.
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Jon:
07 Nov 2007 11:16:58am
Look at and analyse the history of Interest Rates Robert and against relative size of mortgages. Then see what this brings up. Also, 6.75% is the cash rate. 17% was the bank interest rate. Please compare apples with apples.
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Sammy:
07 Nov 2007 11:23:22am
Robert,
Why do you insist on using the mortgage rate for Labor and the targeted cash rate for the Libs.
To be accurate as Rudd has not beed a treasurer he need not say me too, but Howard was and can say me too, because when he was treasurer the rate was 22%.
The only person to take credit here should be Costello.
Vote for Costello as Prime minister and Downer as treasurer.
What a team. Coatello who sings and Downer who dances.
Keep that picture in your mind when you vote next.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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alister:
07 Nov 2007 11:10:01am
The rise in interest rates is another UNDESERVED PENALTY on pensioners and very low income workers. Consider this:-
we do not travel, we do not buy cars over $3000, we buy only basic food and occassional cheap clothing; we do not go to major sporting or entertainment events. Our biggest 'outing' each fortnight is to a shopping mall mostly using public transport. We cannot replace home appliances, lawn mowers etc, without a huge financial savings effort.
In short, we have not, do not, and will not contribute in the least to monetary inflation. Why therefore must we pay for the whims of the rich who purchase vehicles worth 1000's more dollars than are necessary, indulge in multi dwelling purchases, and expend money unnessarily on luxury imported goods?
Very strange that not a single comment on this monetary factor has been made so far: well perhaps not considering that the politicians most certainly would not have personal knowledge of the problem.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Hrcules Brabazon:
07 Nov 2007 11:09:13am
Paper Houses Paper Houses. Kindly corrrect me as to why Howard and Costello introduced the famous' First Home Buyers' Scheme? Was it
A. Out of the Kindness of their hearts?
B. To sooth nerves in the building industry in the wake of the intro. of the GST
C. A nice fiddle for Banking sector to flood the market with gazillions in easy credit.
ANS. B & C.
Kids taking up the 'no deposit' house and land package, and simply using the FHBG as deposit, have no understanding of that one post war principle that your mum Mona would have drummed into you as a kid, Mr Howard, that is 'save save save', and in the process of saving learn a a little fiscal restraint. Isn't it a pity that you didn't listen to your dear old mum! Tsk Tsk tsk.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Mike:
07 Nov 2007 11:08:29am
John Howard the "master puppet " falls on his face again.
His government has no control over interest rates.
All their statements are lies, lies more lies.
In truth the interest rate rise as Andrew Robb this morning had to acknowledge on ABC radio is not controlled by the government at all -its controlled by an independent authority the Reserve Bank.
There are no cotton threads connected to the Reserve back
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Stevo:
07 Nov 2007 11:06:27am
A decent size wages breakout would help all those struggling with debt. I'm suprised it hasn't happened given the resources boom and the skills shortage. Oh thats right, WorkChoices. You have the choice to work for less, illegal to strike. you have the Workchoice to remain silent.... bye bye little johnnie
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Tony:
07 Nov 2007 11:06:00am
I've read some of the posts by people on here and am disgusted at the "give no crap" attitude by some. Its just to easy to be so simplistic.
The home affordability problem is caused by a number of factors.
In the 1980s when the worlds economy was exploding and rates went through the roof, banks lent up to 90 percent of the value of a property and we had to scrimp and save for that elusive deposit on a house. Today, banks lend up to 110 percent.. Not a typo... 110% Meaning that those who qualify dont need a deposit or evidence of saving. Granted the criteria is strict, but no loans manager meeting targets is going to knock back too many. So now we have young buyers being told they qualify for a loan that would be totally out of reach.
OK.. One could argue that noone's foricing anyone to take out such a big loan and they should buy within their means... Enter the Builder and Developer!
The young couple cant afford an established home close to the city so they look further out. And they keep going... and going until theyre 45-50kms out of the city. They find a lovely estate with a lake that wasnt there last week and oh look, ducks!!
The developer is there with the sausage sizzle and face painting for the kiddies selling blocks the size of postage stamps for 200,000 dollars. But look at that lake isnt it pretty?
And to prevent "riff raff" from building here, theyve thrown in some covenanats to ensure the streets look nice such as minimum house sizes, limited selection of material types and even colors, rules on landscaping and concreting.
So now the young couple are face with building a home no less than 23sqs, with this kind of bricks, steel roof and fencing and a rule that stipulates all frotn gardens must be completed within six months of moving in to an area which eventually promises schools and shops. But it has a lake.
In comes the builder... Yes they can build this house to the developers covenants but if you need carpets and tiles to walk on it will cost you so an extra 5 grand. But you do have an alfresco overlooking that lake or a theatre room, with four bedrooms and a study.
Wow lucky that nice bank person said we can borrow so much. We're going to need it. And thanks to Hr Howard splurging on baby bonuses instaed of child care centres and home owners grants, we can just afford to buy that place.
Gone are the days when young people can build a small house with sheets for temporary curtains and use it as a foot in the door. In order to do that they may have to live in the country but fat lot of good that is if they work in town. The petrol prices will see that cant happen.
We've become a society of wannabes and the banks, builders and developers have seized on it and marketed their products to make it so much easier to get our instant dream (just add lake water). Now its all coming back to bite everyone oAgree (0) Alert moderator
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Cloud:
07 Nov 2007 11:04:43am
Interest rate rises are bad news, but unless actions are taken by both parties, the worst will come soon. The more than $30 billion tax cuts will not help those needed at all.
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common sense:
07 Nov 2007 11:04:31am
under a Labor government your house will take longer to build therefore cost more in every aspect. Under a labor government new housing estates will come under alot of union control which will prevent alot of sub contrators (small business) from these sites unless they have paid up membership. I remember how long it used to take to build houses/buildings (strike after strike) under a labor government alot longer than it takes today as most trades people are contractors, under union control we will go back to hourly rates.
Remember a vote for labor is a vote for union control so if you want it good if not, vote any but .Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Diogenies:
07 Nov 2007 11:01:35am
Repeat after me .... 6 rises in a row = 1.5% increase ...
It rose by 2% at a time under Keating (will never forget applying for loan at 11.5% - approved at 13.5% - first repayment (we were building a house) at 17.5%
We just borrowed again to buy elsewhere (move from Stanthorpe to Tweed Heads) the bank offered us 6 times what we wanted. As we remember living on Wheetbix & milk for 3 meals a day we worked out how much we would get from the dole (in case our jobs went phhhttt) and how much we could afford to repay if rates hit 10% & that is what we asked for & found a place to suit.
As for housing affordability - how many of you here smugly tell your friends "my house is now worth x00,000 when I bought 3 years ago it it was only 1/3rd that" & then in the next breath - "don't know how my kids will be afford to a house" - you are part of the problem.Agree (1) Alert moderator
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Mark:
07 Nov 2007 10:57:48am
Who says the liberals are the best managers in tough times they haven't had any to manage! The same old policy response they have always had budget surpluses and pray for growth delivered by someone else rather than focus on sustainable growth which requires spending on infrastructure , services & training (fertile soil)
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Barrie:
07 Nov 2007 10:56:12am
I suspect that Labor will win the election and roll back the industrial relations laws. This will send interest rates back up to the 17.5% we had during the last Labor government. The unions will demand pay rises and their party will oblige by legislating mandatory pay rises. Businesses will fold and then we will fall into a recession - but the government will borrow money to keep the economy going but leave us with a huge deficit that will be paid off by the next Liberal governement. We are in for a tough three years. I think I will move my investments off shore for that three years.
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Cloud:
07 Nov 2007 11:20:54am
I don't think I would agree with you on your prediction. What makes you think that the Labour Party hasn't learnt a lesson from its past? Also, Australia was not isolated and had the same expereince as other countries in last three decades, it's not simply due to the Labor's bad policies.
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Bill Williams:
07 Nov 2007 10:56:04am
I'm reading a lot about how much it is to borrow money, with the new rate rise. My wife and I are pensioners and I would like to tell you all about the lack of''interest' the banks have in us savers. The rates have now moved six times but the savings rates have only moved three. So who's winning...THE BANKS!
Yes. We do need to kick out Howard. If we do, let's demand the incoming government do something about the ruthless financial institutions and hit them with a windfall tax; as they do in the UK. That makes them sit up!Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Andrew:
07 Nov 2007 10:55:16am
The reason the RBA is increasing interest rates is that people are spending beyond their means. If we all constrained our spending patterns just a little, the RBA wouldn't need to keep increasing rates. Perhaps a little bit of Japanese conservatism in Australia wouldn't go astray?
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G:
07 Nov 2007 11:19:00am
But!!!..
How will I assert my faux-economic superiority if I don't have my monster airconditioned BMW 4wd (that has never seen anything other than paved streets) to ponce around in on military rd?
What about my Mc mansion? the gvt-funded private school where I send my kids to have the latest in drug-dissemination technology?
Are you suggesting that Australia SHOULDN'T follow the same economic path as the USA? you heathen!, terrorist!. If you're not with us, you're against us! etc. etc. etc.
In any case, for those who were up to their eyeballs in debt, now you're deeper. time to get rid of the 4wd.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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gazza1:
07 Nov 2007 10:52:47am
Lets be fair dinkum - Howard cant keep refering to the Hawke - Keating interest rates and when they rise under his watch say that he has no control over interest rate changes - Hello yes he does its called inflation.
Hawke - Keating inherited double digit inflation ... by who? treaurer Howard and to bry the inflation rate down interest rates had to rise.
Lets not dwell what happened 10-20 years ago lets look to the future .... the Howard govt has not put in the appropriate checks and balances to ensure that the interest rates dont rise.
Interest rates are not the be all end all its the housing afforabilty, Climate change , skills shotage, hospitals , education , and IR we should all be concentrating on in this election.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Norm McMullen:
07 Nov 2007 11:22:20am
Gazzal, in the toing and froing on economy and interest rates, the RBA controls interest rates. John Howard has nothing to do with it. What J. Howards interest is in what he can make the Australian people believe. That he has for eleven years made the Australian people believe that only he can manage the economy makes me just a little ashamed. Are we such an incompetent mob that all our talent resides in two men. Howard and Costello.
Australia is in a period of economic good health and that would remain so regardless of who is in power.
There is other matters at stake beside the economy. Direction the country is headed for one. Up to the Australian people to decide on that!Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Frank:
07 Nov 2007 10:50:26am
All those blue collar workers of Australia who forgot who they were for the last 10 yrs and thought they were some sought of business entrepreneurs all of a sudden and were gonna figure in Johnny's great plans............ YOU'RE GETTING WHAT YOU DESERVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wmc:
07 Nov 2007 11:07:53am
Yes, all workers are getting what they deserved: unemployment at a 30 year low, low inflation and interest rates that are lower than under Hawke and Keating.
Thanks to the repeal of Keating's unfair dismissal laws, workers are now much more likely to get full-time jobs than casual jobs.
Thanks to a reduction in union power, there's now a rising culture of entrepreneurship in Australia. That's increasing the rate at which businesses and jobs are being created.
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Lowey:
07 Nov 2007 10:50:14am
Inflation is on the rise and what do both parties do? They give out $30+ billion in tax cuts. Kevin Rudd had a gilt edged opportunity to show some guts and not follow the Howard herd but chose to also offer big tax cuts when the nation is crying out for targeted spending on skills and infrastructure. If only he had resisted that temptation he would have had my vote for sure. Why can't both sides be honest enough to admit that tax cuts equal less Government services/spending the ultimate cost of which will have to be picked up by us the voters. Tax cuts are inflationary and will put further upward pressure on interest rates. Today will not be the end of rising interest rates which ever party wins the election.
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Sean:
07 Nov 2007 10:44:12am
The most fascinating thing about this interest rate rise and the general notion that the Coalition remains the best economic manager is that this doesn't appear to be the central issue on the electorates' mind for this election. Howard was shown by Newspoll today to have twice the rate of support for his economic credentials against Rudd. But this is the interesting point as discussed by the Insiders - Howard continues to out do Rudd when the question is who is the best economic manager - yet Rudd/Labour continues to maintain a lead in the polls that also holds in the marginals. Clearly there is something strange going on here. Today's interest rate rise could work one of 2 ways - some people may get so pissed off that they vote for Rudd whilst other's may get frightened by this rise and stick with who they know, Howard. I tend to think that there will be a canceling out effect so there will be no net gain to either side which therefore still placed Rudd as odds-on favorite for the election.
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Cus :
07 Nov 2007 10:56:36am
We people live in a community, not an economy. Thats whats it is about.
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tim hoff:
07 Nov 2007 11:16:03am
.....and a failed economy will mean a failed community
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Wayne:
07 Nov 2007 11:14:56am
Interesting indeed. I fully agree that this rise may not necessarily lead voters away from the Coalition. However, those with a memory span longer than a Goldfish will recall the big spending and upward pressure on interest rates of past Labour governments. This is "genetic" and comes along with the trade unions and their continual pressure applied for wage increases. The Unions will tell you they are in this for the worker yet national Union membership is at an all time low?. What does this say about the relationship between the workforce and the Unions?. Yeah, for sure there will be a knee jerk reaction from those pi**ed off with the rate rise but the squeeze surely has something to do with care in spending and over committment ? Much of the national debt and spending problem is linked purely to discretional spending and credit cards. Surely it's hard to blame Johhny for that. I have a mortgage too but I know who I'd rather have managing the economy.
Those who don't sit back and have a good hard look at the big picture will have no one to blame but themselves if they vote in a big spending inexperienced rabble on November 24th. Go ahead, hand the country over to Labor and the unions. You don't have to say much more than look at how NSW is managed...Time to break out the "Don't blame me - I voted Liberal" bumper stickers for the car.......Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Graeme Payne:
07 Nov 2007 10:43:48am
Howard has continually blamed the previous ALP Government for interest rate rises. Now he says that such rises are influenced by outside economic factors. John, you cannot have it both ways - it appears the only interest you have is self interest!!!!
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Luke:
07 Nov 2007 10:43:29am
The rate level is a result of were we are on the economic cycle (late boom) the RBA increases rates to slow spending down and reduce asset speculation.
The rate increases at the end the end (of increases) cause the most pain (and the most effect for the RBA). This may well be the last increase before rates begin dropping in 6-12 months. This will depend on how spending changes and the international economy.
Unfortunatley some households will go to the wall (people that a home purchase was a big ask for), others will adjust spending and make it through to the sunshine.
Which government is better to handle the economic situations? Both parties seem intent on passing money back to the electorate in record ammounts fueling spending. The only potential difference between the two is will the abolition of work choices lead to wage increases which will really lift inflation, causing more severe interest rate increases, the jury is out.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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david:
07 Nov 2007 10:59:43am
Luke, inflation can be attributed to many things, but the main influence is the imbalance of supply and demand. Currently we are so short of workers to supply the mining boom that it is pushing prices sky high. This is easily eclipsing any effects Work Choices or its abolition would make (after all Work Choices was implemented for the future when the boom is over, not for now).
If the Coalition hadn't abolished the training schemes that Labor had implemented while in government, this labour shortage would not be nearly as acute and the pressure on inflation and interest rates would not be as high.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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kelvin:
07 Nov 2007 11:01:41am
Sorry, the government can't have it both ways. When it launched workchoices it said that the competetion for skills would tip wage negotiation in favour of employees. The larger inflationary pressure is undoubtedly the lack of suitably skilled people in this era of growth, not alternative models of decentralised wage bargaining. Re-read the RBA's pronoucnements over the last 6 years, then decide who the target was for its comments. What most commentators have missed is that the messages were often intended for the government, not the markets.
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Ricky:
07 Nov 2007 10:42:00am
No No No, come JOhn Howard and Peter Costello, it is time to take responsibilities, I mean how can you explain cleary that Australian Economy is stronger when public scholls and university are less funded, when working class families are srtuggling to make ends meat, they cant afford to buy a house, htey dont have time to spend with their Kids, child care is even worse, Only NorhtSydney is benefiting and sure agreeing that the econmy is stronger,
I mean australians are not that Dumb man, I just cant wait november 24, we need a changeAgree (0) Alert moderator
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Les:
07 Nov 2007 10:40:28am
Howard may not have lied when he stated that he would keep interest rates at record lows.
What he did do though was create an expectation that borrowers could take out housing loans with some certainty that rates would be managed.
It is not possible for most people to borrow for a house without the necessity of imposing tight household budgets due to the high price of housing & the ever increasing percentage of disposable income required to service a housing loan.
One interest rate rise stretches the budget, six makes it almost impossible to manage.
Some of these same borrowers have also had wage cuts imposed on them by stealth under the guise of Work Choices legislation.
These are the people Howard & Costello have betrayed.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Jon:
07 Nov 2007 10:39:04am
Any comments agreeing or disagreeing that the marginal seat polling actually shows that it is likley that the Liberal Party is likley to be returned, but that John Howard is likley to lose his seat.
It is all very well to harp on about the Government's actions over 11 years which I believe are quite disgusting in many respects including economic mismanagement (particularly loose fiscal management), but the reality is that nearly 50% of the people will actyually vote for them. Remember, Beasley lost with over 50% f the vote. I'm afraid we are heading towards a similar situation.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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common sense:
07 Nov 2007 10:37:18am
It just goes to show how many folk budget for the day not the future. the best thing to happen to me was to be knocked back on $3000 car loan in 1991. It thought me 2 vital life skills don't borrow what you can't afford to pay back and if you want something bad enough save for it,but we live in a must have it today world or else we feel inferior to our neightbour.
interest going up is a bit like the millinium bug that never happened however if rates do touch on 11% then maybe that will bug will bite.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Marg:
07 Nov 2007 10:33:26am
Let's see if I've got this right.
When interest rates increase under a Liberal Government it's good economic management, but, if interest rates rise under a Labor Government it's not good economic management.
Does John Howard think we are stupid?
Johnny and his boys have and will continue to mislead, misrepresent and lie to get re elected. I'm not buying it.Agree (1) Alert moderator
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Luke:
07 Nov 2007 10:30:35am
How can everyone say interest rates are high 6.75 RBA or 7.9 bank rate are not high rates. 10+ is high 15+ is very high.
A 7% return is your money back in 10+ years if you invest.
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Mark:
07 Nov 2007 10:59:25am
Compare it to other countries we have very high rates - look at the dollar - Howards solution give us more money to spend on Plasma's!!
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rb:
07 Nov 2007 10:28:55am
When we purchased an average sized home back in 1971, the cost was about 2-3 times the yearly average wage.
These days an "average house" costs about 6-7 times the "average wage"!
Any rise in the interest rates make the purchase of homes more difficult, however, it is the overall cost that makes home ownership an impossible dream.
The ridiculous cost of land, government taxes, bank insurance fees, etc, etc are the main reasons behind the non-affordability of housing these days.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Stevo:
07 Nov 2007 10:26:33am
The real impact of inflation is still yet to be felt. Oil prices, not policy, is driving inflation all over the world. Governments are going to need to use a tool other than interest rates to try and check it. Raising interest rates won't dent inflation once oil prices really push it hard. This situation last happened in the 70s. Roaring inflation, HUGE wages breakout, our exporters took a hammering but individuals in debt ie mortgages, saw the value of their debt disappear. So what do you do? It depends on who you are. Some win, some lose and so the beat goes on.
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Brian:
07 Nov 2007 11:05:12am
Thanks to the rising dollar and the weak US dollar oil prices shouldn't have as much impact.
The real problem with inflation is the greedy supermarkets where margins have increased dramatically. Last week my favourite cheese (imported from NZ) rose from $6.71 to $7.15. To the best of my knowledge there is no drought in NZ so it is profiteeing on the part of the supermarkets.
Also we are just spending too much and need to keep up with everyone else. Back in the fifties we just managed on what we had and not borrowing for something we didn''t need.
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Barry:
07 Nov 2007 10:25:39am
Two points. I would love to see a proper economist's analysis of interest rate changes between Australia and other leading countries in OECD over the past 30 years and especially since the floating of the Aussie dollar. Australia's interest rate currently is about 4% higher than other countries so we might not be going so well.
I suspect that the year long campaign by Howard ramping up the economy, the Budget tax cuts in July, freebies to oldies etc at end of June would have fanned the inflation rate at a crucial time. Together with the knowledge that the drought would have an impact on inflation, this is incompetence in my mind.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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sillyfilly:
07 Nov 2007 11:18:56am
Saw one of these average graphs last night on the ABC Business report: showed for the last twenty or so years that OZ cah rate was some 1.2% above the OECD average for all this time- so relative to the rest of the world nothing has changed with either labour or liberal governments
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rmj:
07 Nov 2007 10:25:05am
Record low housing affordability!
Interest rate rise after interest rate rise.
Are we now suffering the highest interest rates in the developed world?
AUSTRALIAN FAMILIES HAVE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD!
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Cloud:
07 Nov 2007 10:49:11am
Just spot on. Compared to other OECD countries, Australians are now paying much more in terms of interest payment. The Liberal Party has led us to this situation by its continous tax cut policy to wrongly show off their economic management skills, without realising we need to invest in key infrastructure sectors and human resources to boost our capacity. The worst is to come, it would not be surprising if interest rates rise to 10% or 15% in the near future.
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Udo:
07 Nov 2007 10:24:49am
if people chose need instead of greed we wouldn't have this problem ...... buy the house you need not the one the Jones's dictate ...... remember that $30,000 car is only $5000 of car with $25,000 of ego try rating that expensive big house like that
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Culprit:
07 Nov 2007 10:40:18am
What a stupid generalisation. How about you look around and see what is really happening. Sure there are some people that have borrowed beyond their means. Many have borrowed just for a place to live in the outer suburbs and are driving around in 10 year + old cars. Those same people are trying to put their kids through schools, pay the rent or mortgage and just get by. To simply say everyone is struggling because of their own hand is simply an out of touch comment.
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VMc:
07 Nov 2007 10:24:26am
I can't believe a government would want an interest rate rise this close to an election. Therefore who realy runs the economy? In which case does it matter which party governs?
This can and will only hurt people struggling to find the monthly payment for their mortgage. No-one else!! Sorry, of course it hurts the current government too. But not where it counts on a daily basis.
I can't see how this interest rate increase will stem the flow of money exiting Australia with the purchase of foreign goods due to the current strong Aussi $. As those trying to find mortgage repayments don't have money to spare for spending on anything other than essentials.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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businessman:
07 Nov 2007 10:46:20am
If the Howard's Government were proactive rather than sleeping at the wheel, interest rates, inflation & CPI could be at a better level.
the problem with interest rate rising again is that it makes our exports dearer and Australians are priced out of the market. Hence making exports difficult and balance of payments
more out of kilter.
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tim hoff:
07 Nov 2007 10:23:43am
Well I fixed my rate for 3 years as soon as Labor got ahead in the polls so I don't give a rats.
Personally I think a rate rise is just a contributor to inflation and the RB Gurus are dead wrong.
If the RB is not carefull they will create their own little mortgage crisis to rival the Yanks at this rate.
Consumer spending has been on the march for alot longer than underlying inflation has been on the rise? As long as production keeps up with demand their shouldn't be any major inflation dramas unless outside factors like oil prices, cyclones, Trade Unions and now THE RB conspire to increase business costs.
Hey RB Gurus your consistent rate rises are just being passed on to prices so it's no bloody wonder inflation is on the rise you bone heads.
Good luck to all you "True Belivers" that think that the business bashing social policies of a Labor Govt will bring down inflation.
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sillyfilly:
07 Nov 2007 10:23:14am
Well, another bonus for the "Howard battlers": another interest rate rise, home afforability out the window, underlying inflation at the top end of the RBA range, workchoices undermining wage relativity for most of the population: Australian families have never been better off: or as Minister Abbott would say "Bull----"!!
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Schadenfreude:
07 Nov 2007 10:22:04am
I'm willing to bet most of you whingers here are at the top of your affordable interest rate level setting...
Now it'll be time for you to sell because you can't afford it... or the bank will take it over...
Then itll be time for me to jump in and buy my first place for a song and have a budgeted interest rate rise of at least 5%.
All you people that thought interest rates would sit at 6% for 25 years really are silly and deserve no sympathy.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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weev:
07 Nov 2007 10:19:54am
It's bedazzling hearing the Liberal spin.
My favourite is 'interest rates will always be lower under a Coalition Govt' - a statement that can never be proven wrong.
So far in the election campaign they have changed tack almost weekly looking to find something that will stick. But their lawyers tongues are starting to let them down.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Bill Door:
07 Nov 2007 11:05:21am
Couldn't agree more Weev. I would like Little Johnny to make the promise that if re-elected interest rates will remain lower than when he came to office 11 years ago and not rise above the rate that Keating left him.
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Jimmy:
07 Nov 2007 10:19:07am
The baseball bats are out johnny!
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brian:
07 Nov 2007 10:18:24am
Unfortunately for John Howard his policies have not changed since he was treasurer in the Frazer govt in the early 80,s when there were record interest rates and a wages explosion that we have not seen since.So as we enter the bad times again what guarantee is there that these events wont re occur.
He has allowed a skills shortage and depleted national infrastructure to be the hallmarks of his government. The claim that they could manage Australia during hard times is hollow.Agree (1) Alert moderator
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buttercup:
07 Nov 2007 10:18:23am
Peter Costello has consistently harped that Labor are bad managers, however, this latest interest rate coupled with John Howards "gift" of $3 million dollars to Bennelong just smacks of "we know better than you".
If Costello and Howard had got it right, then they would have taken decisive action (and they were warned about interest rates rising from the Reserve Bank time and time again) to keep things under control. Its obvious that they ignored the Reserve Banks advice and now people struggling to pay their mortage and live will stuggle even more.
No comments about people living beyond their means thanks, when they started paying their mortgages 11 years ago the interest rate was not what it was announced today and their was sufficient extra in their income for them to live properly.
No thanks to Howard either for Work Place Agreements which saw lots of people lose overtime and pay making life a bit harder too.
Now we should brace ourselves for the backlash of Liberal Party Members adding comments telling us how wrong we are to feel like this..........after all "we have never been better off".Agree (0) Alert moderator
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rake:
07 Nov 2007 10:17:48am
So what happens to all those people who over-extended themselves for a loan that they can not budget for because John Howard - the pied-piper of spin - said that loans would be kept down ....and these people believed him.? S it's ok for these people to be discarded on the scrap-heap of broken electoral promises - fodder for a 'must win at all costs' attitude.
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Charles:
07 Nov 2007 10:16:34am
This puts paid to the myth that Howard's Heroes are any sort of decent economic managers.
Having claimed they would keep rates low and still banging on about "who do you trust?" during this election, exposes the rampant hypocrisy underlying Howard's Liberal government.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Kev:
07 Nov 2007 10:15:35am
When are people going to STOP worrying about an economy that is basically controlled offshore?
There are much more important issues to decide, SOCIAL issues, WATER, energy, equity. We should be deciding this election on these issues.
WAKEUP or we will all be living with nuclear reactors powering Australia instead of solar panels, and trying to avoid leukaemia clusters when buying properties instead of bad schools. There is more to life than MONEY much, much more.Agree (2) Alert moderator
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Bill:
07 Nov 2007 10:19:02am
If people cannot afford to buy a house anywhere, let alone next to a nuclear reactor, then money IS an issue.
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Alice T:
07 Nov 2007 10:30:13am
Spot on, Kev!
This government has an obsession and with MONEY that is insane. There is more to the life of a country than its economy.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Matty B:
07 Nov 2007 10:11:40am
Everyone knows that the RBA rises rates to curb inflation. There's only one real reason why we have inflation though..... Because the centrally controlled banks (eg. US Fed, Bank of England, RBA) are legally allowed to practice "fractional reserve lending". This allows them to lend approximately 10 times more than what they actually hold in reserve. Therefore the money supply is easily able to outgrow GDP (or real wealth) making every dollar we own worth less.
Don't believe me? ........ Google it!Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Frank Crawford:
07 Nov 2007 10:10:06am
I hope the comments about the Libs being home and hosed are just wishful thinking on your part, why would anyone reward this Prime Minister with anything other than "The Grand Order of The Boot"? He has taken political lying to another level throughout his tenure, refuses to take responsibility for anything that happens on his watch, I ask the question if he did not know about all the disasters that have visited his government, then why not? Who has their finger on the pulse? Goodbye Mr Howard.
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will:
07 Nov 2007 10:09:59am
Johnny,
stop treating ur fellow citizens as an eco idiot!
stop making those unreasonable promises ,
i don't see how has our eco improved when we all have to pay more and more for our living, while wage stays the same. however, the wage and inflation are also killing a lot of small business.
John Howard, stop telling lies!Agree (1) Alert moderator
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pc:
07 Nov 2007 10:09:19am
Are these the rate rises we had to have. After years of economic neglect, the chickens are coming home to rest for the economic managers! You can't just ride the wave generated by Hawk and Keating and ignore the real economic reforms started back then which needed to be built on. Howard and Costello may be good at creating surpluses, by fiddling the books, introducing new taxes and returning IR back 100years, but hogging cash out of the economy for their own political future is their greatest neglect. Investment in our future and neglecting all of us and our needs is a disgrace. except at election time of course. As always those that suffer are those that can't defend themselves. This and the other rate rises show us how close the economy is poised and does the coalition really understand the economy and how to create it rather than manage it.
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Peregrine:
07 Nov 2007 10:17:58am
Economic neglect? I would love to see you back that statement up with facts. Especially considering the state of the economy when the Coalition took power.
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Matthew Brown:
07 Nov 2007 10:31:35am
What, like the economy that Hawke/keating had to take over when John Howard was Treasurer?
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Wibble:
07 Nov 2007 10:38:25am
It was on it's way to being solid, thanks to the reforms that the outgoing government put in place.
It took him a while, but Johnny and his tax cuts have turned that around nicely. All the while infrastructure has diminished although to be fair there's lots going into things like roads, so we can drive more, pollute more, spend more
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Sammy:
07 Nov 2007 10:40:49am
Lets see....
CAD, Foriegn debt, Average mortgage in$ just to buy a home, Credit card debt, cost of elctricity, gas. My tax bill for one.... up my salary up the tax take, all they have given back is barely bracket creep. Equitable distributin of income. My family time on a new AWA..... I am getting tired here, but you get the point.
When do you think we will pay off this fantastic life we are leading?Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Bill Door:
07 Nov 2007 11:17:14am
Howard himself praised the state of the economy that he inherited from Keating. The economy the the ALP inherited in 1983 was a mess. Unemployment, inflation and interest rates were ALL lower in 1996 than they were in 1983. Howard is very close to leaving Rudd HIGHER interest rates than what he inherited.
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James A:
07 Nov 2007 11:19:04am
The economy was on the way back when Keating lost in 1996.
What cost Keating was his arrogance and telling people that what had happened was good for them, and that is what will cost the Coalition this time.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Christos:
07 Nov 2007 10:08:03am
Hopefully, gullible voters will recognise their folly in accepting Honest John's claim prior to the 2004 election that only he could control interest rates. Australia is a follower of world trends and our politicians do little to influence our macro economics. Ross Gittins has a good article in today's SMH on this topic as it refers to wild claims made by treasurers. The right wing American style politics of Howard's government makes us a candidate for statehood in George Bush's USA. I don't agree with trying to retain Australian ockerism but I'd prefer that we evolve a character of our own rather than an adopted one from abroad.
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Burnie82:
07 Nov 2007 10:07:32am
Prior to the RBA announcement, Peter Costello repeatedly mentioned the ongoing drought as a contributing factor to rate rises.
And yet the current Government continues to believe that the issue of the environment does not hold the Australian economy in the palm of its hand. When on earth is this Government going to act on the looming threat of global warming on Australia?Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Jason Griffiths:
07 Nov 2007 10:07:18am
All though the interest rate has increased yet again, I would suggest that homebuyers take into consideration further possible interest rate increases prior to committing themselves to a home loan. that way, should further increases occur, homebuyers would better positioned to absorb the rate rises into their current budget.
Their is nothing worse than losing your precious home through poor financial mangement and planning. Plan and research your financial position carefully, if neccessary contact an accountant. The small investment in advice is well worth the saving in the long run.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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rmj:
07 Nov 2007 10:05:58am
Who do you trust?
This governments fraudulent claims on economic management ability need to be exposed.
They signed a RESTRICTED trade deal with America that currently looses 15 BILLION dollars per annum.
They sold the goose that laid the golden egg when they sold Telstra. Now BILLIONS of dollars of profit that used to go into the Australian economy go overseas (to respectable investors like the Suharto family).
They bought air craft costing BILLIONS that see us loose air superiority in our region.
Yet they are considered good economic managers.
What a sick Joke the media plays upon Australians.
Another 2 interest rate rises are tipped.
Honest john I for one do not trust you and I believe that if Australians really knew what was going on very few others would either!Agree (1) Alert moderator
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wmc:
07 Nov 2007 10:37:37am
On Telstra - the private sector is much better equipped than the public sector to own and run economic enterprises. The results (including Telstra's) speak for themselves. Tax payer funds from the sale of Telstra haven't been 'lost' - they've been deployed elsewhere. Thanks to measure such as asset sales, the federal government has no net debt, which means vast savings in interest.
On foreign ownership - naturally you neglect to mention that Australian ownership of foreign enterprises is growing at a faster rate than foreign ownership of our enterprises, so net profit is being retained, not 'sent offshore'.
On Suharto - I distinctly recall that it was the Keating government (not the Howard government) that did all the cosying up to this fellow.
On defence acquistions - naturally, you neglect to mention that the RAAF officer who will command the Super Hornets has publicly stated that he believes a Super Hornet would defeat a Sukhoi. I certainly wouldn't be taking advice on defence from the ABC.
On economic management - Howard and Costello's record speaks for itself. Unemployment at a 30 year low, low inflation and interest rates that are lower than under the previous Labor government.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Bill:
07 Nov 2007 10:03:44am
It is funny, but looking at the figures (not listening to political rhetoric), every time the libs are in, interest rates start to rise, every time labor gets in, they start coming down. I don't argue that rates weren't high under labor but just like now, it was the libs that sent them in that direction.
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Matthew Brown:
07 Nov 2007 10:34:37am
Defianately. If you look back across time, Liberal have always been responsible for the start of rises in Interest rates. Sure they peaked under Labour but they had started to drop under labour as well. Keating really did leave the economy well for John Howard and John did do a great job in the early years. By the way, I have always voted Liberal...not any more!
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ahill:
07 Nov 2007 10:00:35am
Housing affordability hits record LOWS and the Liberals say they should be voted back in. Anyone remember the story of the Emperor's new clothes - I just cannot believe that voters would fall for Howard's incredible spin on this.
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Sammy:
07 Nov 2007 10:00:14am
Does the man Howard and the Liberal party have NO SHAME.
If you listen to their retoric it is everyone elses fault that the independent RBA had to lift rates. Then you have the die hard supporters decrying that if the plebs did't put themselves in such debt it would be a problem.
To use a previous Liberal party ad. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME: the guilty party.
For the Family first partywhich supports the Liberal party in most economic princilpes: Sow and ye shall reap.
Look at the direction of interest rates since 2000. Those terrible labor ministers they still control the economy 5 years after they were booted out of power.
THEY ARE ONLY HEADING IN ONE DIRECTION and Costello has no clue how to stop them.... if he couldn't do it in an election year when will he.
Who will handle this crisis better? The one that will offer the greatest number of bribes or the party who scare the punters the most.
Great choice.
I say... why not let Downer take over as treasurer!!!!!!! Ha
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Matty T:
07 Nov 2007 9:59:59am
Is it a deliberate policy of the Howard government to reduce housing affordability to the lowest post-war levels (and are therefore strong, but evil, economic managers), or have they been asleep at the wheel (and have absolutely no idea or control of the economy)?
Seems to me they don't know what they are doing.
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Mark:
07 Nov 2007 9:56:36am
Until someone does something to reduce the spending within the retail sector that involves "interest free" and "buy now, pay later" then interest rate rises will have little impact. The issue is that interest rate rises have no effect if you can buy a product without paying for it there and then. The big problem will come in 18 to 48 months when payment for these electrical and home furnishing products becomes due.
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businessman:
07 Nov 2007 10:08:38am
1.interest free & buy now pay later schemes are costed & built into the price. (If you pay cash you can get a discount.)
2. Interest on borrowed capital is passed on to guess who.. the consumer.. and has a multiplier effect.. that is huge impact..
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Mark:
07 Nov 2007 10:31:21am
Purchases of these products counts as a retail sale even though no money has yet changed hands, hence the pressure on the economy from retail spending.
I still feel that if people think things are tough now, then wait until payments on their new plasma TV's are due, on top of interest rate rises.
That's going to hurt.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Mark:
07 Nov 2007 10:50:53am
Point 1: The cost is factored into the price, hence the price is raised, that's called inflation. People don't pay cash, that's the problem.
Point 2: Costs for interest are passed onto the consumer, that's called inflation.
Point 3: If institutions are having to take out loans to allow them to sell interest free or buy now, pay later and the interest rate is lifted, this obviously gets passed onto the consumer, that's called inflation.
Let's get sensible, if you haven't got the cash for it, don't buy it.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Richard:
07 Nov 2007 9:55:51am
This government is well and truly on the nose. How can John Howard, on one hand, rail against Keating's high inflation and on the other blithely dismiss six interest rates as being out of his control.
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jaloni:
07 Nov 2007 10:00:11am
Because he can and does it so well.
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frankied:
07 Nov 2007 10:04:50am
Couldn't agree more Richard.
Imagine if Latham had won the 2004 election and there had been 6 interest rate rises under a LathamLabor Government. Can you imagine the amount of blame and accusations that wouldv'e been hurled at his government by the opposition. It's always someone else's fault when it comes to the Liberals. Their Hypocrisy is breath taking!Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Mundo:
07 Nov 2007 10:09:22am
Sorry? Keating's high inflation? Um, Keating inherited double digit inflation from treasurer Howard...maybe you're young and don't know that or you've forgotten perhaps.
It was Keating who finally killed the inflation bogey in this country with high interest rates in the late 80s.
11% to 2% Clever boy our Paul.
And what happened?
Australia entered it's longest period of now 17 consecutive years of growth.
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Matthew Brown:
07 Nov 2007 10:39:27am
Couldn't have said it better myself Mundo. But look at it this way. Labour may win this year. They may experience some more rate rises (and the then liberal opposition will say "see told ya"...even though it was their economy labour inherited) and the cycle of blame continues. Lets face it. If elections changed anything, politicians would make them illegal!
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Billy Bob:
07 Nov 2007 10:44:40am
Clever boy keating also put a million Australians (11%) out of work and ran up $96 billion worth of debt. He also promised tax cuts that he withdrew after winning the 93 election.
Reducing inflation is easy when you completely trash the economy (the recession we had to have), the trick is keeping inflation under control when the economy is booming.
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Rex:
07 Nov 2007 9:55:45am
Another interest rate rise under the Howard stewardship. If the coalition government cannot keep interest rates down in good times, how the hell can they claim to be the only party capable of keeping them down in bad times? Yet this is the utterly ludicrous argument they will be trying to flog to the Australian electorate in the coming weeks!
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Neil:
07 Nov 2007 10:12:49am
Pick a mortgage rate, comrade:
[1] 17% under Labor and Keating
[2] 6.75% under Liberals and Hoawrd
While you're at it, pick an unemployment rate:
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Sammy:
07 Nov 2007 10:18:44am
Hey Neil,
Why do you choose the Home mortgage rate under Labor and the RBA targeted cash rate under the Liberal?Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Matty T:
07 Nov 2007 10:19:06am
[3] 22% mortgage rates under Fraser/Howard.
Selective memory disorder, methinks.
[4] 25% under Costello as PM and Downer as Treasurer.
No not any prescience, just a stab in the dark based on their perceived levels of competence.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Billy Bob:
07 Nov 2007 10:49:16am
Mortgage rates were never 22% under Howard as treasurer. Home loan interest rates were capped at 13.5%. The 90 bank bill rate was 21.4%.
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Vivienne:
07 Nov 2007 11:23:50am
The cap did not apply to all, mate. Applied to those who took loan out by a certain year and others suffered the higher rates.
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Terry:
07 Nov 2007 10:22:13am
Neil,
Lets get the facts right.
Pick a mortgage rate, comrade:
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bj:
07 Nov 2007 10:26:01am
Neil - the economy is a product of a huge number of variables over a time continuum. Comparing one variable at one time with the same variable at another time, without taking into account movements in other variables is not very intelligent. Clearly you're a committed Liberal voter - are you an ad man too?
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Atomicnirvana:
07 Nov 2007 10:26:58am
Neil, I think you need to look at the proportion of household income needed to service the mortgage, not interest rates alone. Under Keating/Hawke it was way lower than currently under Howard/Costello, which actually made it easier for families to pay the bills, put food on the table etc.
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RAS:
07 Nov 2007 10:27:20am
What about 22% interest rates under lib when Howard was treasurer - that was not labour's fault. Talk about economic cyle and external factors in globolised economy. Labour understands economy better - that is why they don't promise to keep interest rate record low!
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Mundo:
07 Nov 2007 10:31:27am
Sure Neil, how about an inflation rate:
11% under Frazer/Howard
2% under Hawke/Keating
By the way, unemployment hit 11%+ under treasurer Howard.
Been away for a while have you?Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Matthew Brown:
07 Nov 2007 10:42:19am
1. Double Digit interest rates inherited from John Howard - Treasurer.
2. Interest rates peaked under labour and then began to decrease
3. Employment rates inherited again from Mr Howard the treasurer.
4. Paul Keating comes in and sure libs took over an economy that then grows due to Pauls economic management for the next 17 years without too much effort on any ones part. Pauls relations with the Chinese was one hell of a big factor.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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rake:
07 Nov 2007 9:55:38am
I thought I heard Peter Costello admit that one of the factors that's pushing up interst rates is the drought - via it's impact on food prices and lower farm exports.
Given that's accepted, and given that most climatologists now-days say that global warming is exacerbating the exceptional drought, surely it's therefore logical to say that global warming is actually impacting this aspect of the economy as well? Especially since Costello also says the drought is a factor in the interest rate rise.
It looks like a highly probable scenario.
Drought and interest rates are not just a coincidence in this climate changing scenario. Just as insurance rates are rising as climate gets more extreme, there are other flow-on impacts on the economy.
The chickens are coming home to roost, whether some choose to bury their head in the sand or face reality.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Steve:
07 Nov 2007 9:55:25am
I wonder how much higher interest rates would have been under a Labour Government? History says - much higher!!!
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James A:
07 Nov 2007 10:07:52am
Home interest rates were only 13.5% while Howard was treasurer because they were capped at this amount.
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Colin:
07 Nov 2007 10:24:56am
They rose to 13.5% under Hawke/Keating and were capped at that rate in 1985-6 until further pressures due to their mismanagement in giving us the "recession we had to have" meant new home loans were un-capped and rose to 17.5% in the late 80's. Get your facts right!!
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Chris:
07 Nov 2007 10:08:01am
Pardon me, but 17% on a $40K median loan, with median incomes of about $25K was probably not as bad as 8.5% on a $300K median loan with median incomes of $45K
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Colin:
07 Nov 2007 10:29:33am
And what about wages then and now? You can't separate them and make this sort of comparison. The single biggest problem now is the ability to borrow far higher amounts relative to your savings. Back then you could only borrow to a maximum of 80% and even then you needed a savings history and job security to show you could afford the loan. Look at today's banking ads and you'll see how much easier it is to get a loan with far less security and with far far greater risk.
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Andrew:
07 Nov 2007 11:05:37am
The rising of the house price is not because of the rising of interest rate. On the contrary, rising interest rate is trying to slowing down the rising of the house price. Could we expect the house price going down with a new government. Absolutely not! Unless you'd like to see the decline of the Australian economy.
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Darryl :
07 Nov 2007 10:12:34am
How far back do you want to go steve? back to when Howard was Treasurer? - 22%!!!!
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Barry:
07 Nov 2007 10:29:08am
Housing interest rates were never 22% under anybody. Better check the facts. As somebody else has said, they were capped back in those days and the economy was a very different economy to what it is now.
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bb:
07 Nov 2007 10:13:02am
Your argument fails the test given fact that they were high under Fraser/Howard... Also the RBA is now independent so history is no judge! The economic reality is that that they would be the same no matter who is in government.
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Mundo:
07 Nov 2007 10:15:47am
Well actually, when interest rates rose to 17% in the late 80s in an internationally high interest rate environment, Australia's rates were in line or lower than those of comparable major economies.
Today, in an internationally low interest rate environment, Australia's rates are the h i g h e s t of all the major central banks. That's the HIGHEST.
And higher than the majority of comparable major economies.
So I'm not sure your logic really works.
Given that Keating lowered interest rates by a staggering 13% over 4 years - 1990 to 94 - I think I'd feel more confident with the ALP in power since interest and inflation are on the rise.
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Charles:
07 Nov 2007 10:19:12am
Actually it's dogma that says it. Howard was voted in on a "I'll keep them low" platform. It is a betrayal of the electorate and hopefully he'll pay for it.
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Alan Deakin:
07 Nov 2007 9:53:11am
I am so sick of the spin the the media and self centred lobby groups keep putting on interest rates. Though I fortunately never experienced the extreme rates of long ago, when I borrowed money for my home I only borrowed what I could afford to pay allowing for up to an additional 5% increase in rates.
Anyone who is stupidly borrowing on the extreme limits of their repayment capabilities without the foresight to factor a couple of percent interest rate rises deserves everything they are now getting.
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Chad:
07 Nov 2007 10:02:57am
YES, we did allow for a rate rise or three in our budgeting when we borrowed, but we didn't allow for SIX rate rises in a row, with no signs from the Government they will slow their spending to get re-elected.
They were supposed to control the economy, Alan but can you see how they have tried to do so?? Through more tax cuts, the highest spending of any election campaign in history, tax cuts, tax cuts, more money, and BAM now people will be losing their homes because of the inability of this government to stop trying to buy votes. You think we would have had a tax cut this year if they were ahead in the polls 60-40? Hell no!
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Alan Deakin:
07 Nov 2007 10:34:49am
Given that each increase has only been 25 basis point (0.25%) you really did not factor in any movement of the interest rates. If you only factored in a possible movement 0.75% then you were having yourself on.
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Frank:
07 Nov 2007 10:13:27am
People have believed what John Howard has said in the last election. If the Prime Minister of this country is a spin doctor or liar what chance the average people would have. Dont blame ordinary people for this. They are all good people and they trusted JH for what he has promised.
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Heythere:
07 Nov 2007 9:52:50am
Howard says he promised to be better than labour on interest rates. After six rate rises this term - how could labour be worse?
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craig:
07 Nov 2007 9:51:42am
i live within my means...i havent overborrowed unlike twits out there....stop blaming the government for your own mis management of your personal finances !!
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Julian:
07 Nov 2007 9:59:38am
We're not. We're blaming them for being two faced liars. They're like Kate in the Taming of the Shrew - "Why, it's the moon", "Why, it's the sun"
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Song:
07 Nov 2007 10:02:16am
Don't blame people who borrow. Johnny Howard is the one who keeps on saying that interest rates are on the way down, more tax cuts etc. People wouldn't forsee these rate hikes and tax cuts buying them a cup of coffee a week when they get the loan. Plus, the banks are lending their money to just about everyone. So don't blame the people, blame the economy managers ie Johhny and Peter, especially when they are trying so hard to scare everyone and mislead everyone.
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Darson:
07 Nov 2007 10:40:09am
You want to blame everyone else yet if you did some simple research you would know interest rates are cyclic every 10-15 years or so will rise. Remember also under labour some 28 years ago interest rates hit the record highs. 18-21%
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rake:
07 Nov 2007 10:02:59am
Sure Craig, but the Howard government gave the impression that interest rates could be kept low ....and by giving this message, some naive people may have taken him on his word, and borrowed on his promise when they may not have had the ability to carry it otherwise. That's where Howard's spin was irresponsible and may have set-up some people for failure on loan repayments. Not a good thing, no matter what your political view is.
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Sue:
07 Nov 2007 10:46:08am
Did you buy a demoutable home in a long stay caravan park in the back of beyond? - or are you in the banking real/estate industries with your 'means' much chunkier than the norm?
Round my way, if you are not already in the market, it would be almost impossible to purchase anything else for most aspiring home owners. But what the heck - it costs almost as much to rent anyway.
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Heythere:
07 Nov 2007 9:50:43am
For everyone remarking at how close it is to an election - if Howard hadn't delayed the election so long so he could keep having the taxpayer funding advertising for the libs, this wouldn't be an issue.
Howard takes credit for the good times but no responsibility for the bad times. He should be more like Peter Beattie and apologise occaisionally.Agree (2) Alert moderator
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Rosalind:
07 Nov 2007 9:50:08am
Well it happened and the timing couldn't be worse for the Govt. Interest rates highest in 11.5 years, couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of imposters. If Howard & Costello try to put a positive spin on how 'we've never been better off' after this latest rise (house prices must be 10 times higher since 1996) then they had better be prepared to eat their words at the ballot box and catfood should be on the menu.
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jaloni:
07 Nov 2007 9:57:00am
I would like to agree with you Rosalind, but alas, it will not matter. People will be running scared and will not vote out people they know, even if they dislike them. You will have at least another three years of the Libs.
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Competence:
07 Nov 2007 9:49:55am
The government is talking up it experience as its credential. However, we do not need experience; we need competence.
Do they have it? I believe not as evident from Haneef, AWB, WMD, Tampa, Children-overboard, global warming, inability to control inflation, and now when benefits of Keating era have waned continuing rise in the interest rates.
To blame the world economic environment for this rise would be in bad-faith as government had claimed the lower interests in the past on itself.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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wmc:
07 Nov 2007 10:12:26am
Naturally, you fail to mention that Labor's policy on Tampa was the same as the Coalition's and that Rudd also believed the WMD story (he's on the record as saying so).
At least your litany of Lefty whinges didn't include locking up refugees. Perhaps you acknowledge that this Coalition policy was copied from Carmen Lawrence and Paul Keating?
You also neglect to mention that Howard supported all the Hawke/Keating policies aimed at opening the economy to market forces. And despite the efforts of Labor's current crew, Howard has kept the economy on the same trajectory as his predecessors.
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Matty T:
07 Nov 2007 9:49:32am
Slightly off topic, but where did the myth of the current government being better economic managers come from?
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Jack:
07 Nov 2007 9:51:26am
I'll give you one guess: Starts with "H" and "C" and ends with "oward" and "ostello".
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archie:
07 Nov 2007 9:55:10am
I know, I know.
Coward and Hostello
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At a loss:
07 Nov 2007 9:56:29am
Matty T, how old are you? did you ever try buying a house under the Keating years? I did and it was 15.5%. The current rate isnt even half that. The unemployment rate was also double digit, and the Aussie dollar was worth about the same as the Zambabwian dolar is today. So I guess the answer to your question is the "myth" comes from history.
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Sammy:
07 Nov 2007 10:06:58am
You seem to rely on another incorrect Zimbabwian quote...Voodoo economics. How much did you house cost??? How many hours did you have to work to pay it off.
Now translate that what your children have to do to get the say base in life...
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Song:
07 Nov 2007 10:09:22am
But back then, you pay $50K for a house in St Kilda in Melbourne. Now, you are looking at $1 million. I'd rather have 15.5% interest rate.
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Saul:
07 Nov 2007 10:17:45am
No wonder you're at a loss. You've forgotten to factor in the fact that house prices now - across the board, ie everywhere - are much higher than they were at the time of Keating. So the amount borrowed is typically much, much higher. It has to be. My folks borrowed about 52K in 1980, in 2005 I had to borrow nearly 300K to buy a much more modest house in a less affluent area. Yes, my folks had to scrape pennies together every time rates went up. So do I.
So if you expect people to recognise the pain you went through when interest rates were high under Keating (and I know people did), it also behoves you to recognise the intense stress many people are suffering now.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Mundo:
07 Nov 2007 10:25:24am
How far back in history do you want to go?
Howard left Keating double digit inflation, double digit interest rates and double digit unemployment.
The ALP under Hawke and Keating floated the currency, derugulated the financial sector, introduced compulsory super (over a trillion dollars in savings now), introduced competition policy, the first round of IR reforms with enterprise bargining, abolished tariffs, killed off inflation and created the conditions for the now 17th consecutive year of economic growth. Count'em, 17 years.
Do actually know what you're talking about?
The economy in 83 was a basket case. 13 years later, the ALP habded over to Howard one of the most dynamic economies on the planet.
Now that's what I call history.
And yes, I bought a house - my first - in 1989 for $56,000.
I sold it 1993 for $185,000
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darryl :
07 Nov 2007 10:25:43am
How old are you Matty T?
Under Treasurer Howard interest rates hit 22%! And we had double digit unemployment.
Did you ever think that when Keating was around it was international economic pressures that caused interest rates so high - the same excuse Howard and Costello are now using!!! Go figure.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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carol:
07 Nov 2007 10:41:29am
I agree with Sammy, my mortgage went from 13 to 17% but that was NOT more than 35% of my income. The comparison really is stupid in view of crap wages and the high cost of housing in 2007. Howard reckons the libs are better at managing the economy, but Aust has been doing very well over the last 11+ years, like the rest of the West. Many of us are old enough to remember that when things get tougher, it's a Labor government that gives a rat's about ordinary people.
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Retired:
07 Nov 2007 9:49:19am
About time and don't stop. Increased interest rates are good for self funded retirees who need the low volatility of cash investments.
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Cus :
07 Nov 2007 10:06:07am
Perhaps you need to consult a fianancial planner.
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Matthew Brown:
07 Nov 2007 10:53:28am
no, he's a self funded retiree. He needs the low volatility of cash investments.
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Realist:
07 Nov 2007 10:45:19am
To Retired. Too many people are are way too greedy and self-centered. What ever happened to community mindedness?
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Shaun:
07 Nov 2007 11:16:20am
Exactly. If only greedy home sellers hadn't increased prices so much we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
House prices have doubled or tripled in a decade, well above official inflation, wages and even petrol. How can that possibly be justified in a country with so few people and so much land?
The real solution, the only one that will work, is lower house prices.
For the record, I'm a home buyer with a mortgage so I don't stand to benefit from the above. But fair is fair and house prices are way above any realistic price range relative to wages. Indeed they are roughly double their long term average in terms of hours worked to buy a house.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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banisters_mind:
07 Nov 2007 9:47:57am
So after 11 years of the Howard Administration, interest rates are back to where we started, great...
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Greg:
07 Nov 2007 9:47:20am
A new election slogan for John "Going For Broke".
Thanks,
JohnAgree (0) Alert moderator
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Chad:
07 Nov 2007 9:46:17am
I cannot believe the Howard government, i.e. Costello and Howard, will still deny all responsibility for this rate rise today. We can barely cover our bills and mortgage now, I am very worried about this latest rise.
And yes, we did allow for a rate rise or two in our budgeting when we borrowed, but we didn't allow for SIX rate rises in a row, with no signs from the Government they will slow their spending to get re-elected.Six rate rises is poor management, clearly they should have been a bit more careful with their tax cuts to the higher income earners, for they are the only ones who can afford to spend it! Thanks, Liberals.
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Chris:
07 Nov 2007 9:58:32am
We also allowed for a few interest rate rises in our budgeting, believing the government would protect us from repeated rate increases through tight management. Well, what happened?? Now we are also extremely concerned about our mortgage... things have been terribly tight lately, and we sold a car to reduce costs already... now what?
And you are right! They will come out and deny it all, yet they take credit when things go right!! I am furious as you are Chad, and will take to my TV with a hammer if I see those two later today blaming this all on the global market! STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY ON TAX CUTS TO THE RICH!!! Seems simple to me...Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Peter:
07 Nov 2007 9:46:14am
I am getting older and have more cash in the bank. This is good news for those with cash investments. I can remember when I was getting 14% for my cash investments. Looking forward to those days coming back.
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Arthur:
07 Nov 2007 10:22:23am
I remeber a client in 1989 locked in a deposit at 13% for 10 years. Everyone else who was getting 17% on 30day investments said he was mad.
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RAS:
07 Nov 2007 9:46:14am
Since 2004, the interest rate is going up and up - six continuous rate rise with not a single one down. The economists are anticipating more rate rises in the coming months. That clearly demonstrates that Howard's economic policy is not working whatever he claims to fool us.
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Tigga:
07 Nov 2007 9:57:15am
My interpretation of the Coalition's economic policy is to allow external factors to influence the economy but not allow government spending to further add to the overheated economy. Using the excess revenue from the current economy to fund tax cuts is far less inflationary then the alternative of using those funds to increase government spending ... a policy sure to be adopted by a Labour government.
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CraigR:
07 Nov 2007 10:17:52am
Increased government spending = education and training, health care, climate change initiatives, rebuilding infrastructure such as roads, rail, ports, telecommunications, redistribution of wealth to the neediest in our society; all investments in future economies. Tax cuts = more consumer spending, a lot of which is spent on imported luxury goods such as plasma TVs, leading to higher inflation and a trade deficit. Bring on government spending by a responsible progressive government.
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Arthur:
07 Nov 2007 10:20:07am
Tigga,
Have to disagree in part. putting money back in the pockets of the people will have a big effect on inflation. It is our excessive consumer spending that is a big influence on driving up inflation. We are very much going through a keeping up with the Jones's time.
Govt spending also increases inflation but the effect depends on what they spend money on. This is where I would prefer to see infrastructure developed that benefits the country for many years to come. I think this would have less an inflationery affect than tax cuts.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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C:
07 Nov 2007 9:45:40am
Rising interest rates are a sign of an expanding economy. As they were when interest rates were increasing under Paul Keating's management of the economy.
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RAS:
07 Nov 2007 9:54:13am
One cannot have both ways. In the past, lower interest rates is better - now higher interest rate is better. In fact, gov is simply failed to manage the economy.
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Graham:
07 Nov 2007 9:45:29am
I think John Howard now needs to make up his mind - does he run the economy or is it essentially on auto-pilot?
He can not deny responsibility for interest rate rises, and then turn aroundf and say it is essential that his government remain in control of the economy to minimise any adverse impacts.
That is basically what he has begun to say now, and the Opposition and media should not let him get away with it.Agree (2) Alert moderator
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JP:
07 Nov 2007 9:44:15am
I think this will only help the Coalition. As audacious and transparent as it is, I bet that a lot of people will fall for the "You need experience to manage the economy in these challenging times" line.
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jaloni:
07 Nov 2007 9:47:53am
Absolutely agree. The libs are home and hosed.
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Mark:
07 Nov 2007 9:51:05am
Sadly, particularly given the other sucker lines of his that people have swallowed, I fear you are correct
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Julian:
07 Nov 2007 9:52:19am
Well, we've experienced that they can't be trusted to do what they said regarding interest rates.
And that's the ONLY thing that was going for them their record on ethics is probably the worst on record.
They've screwed up on the ONE thing they're supposed to be good at.
Frankly Rudd was right on that one, if this is experience, we can do without it.
The Liberals (where are the Nationals in this 'coalition') are tired, quiet, jaded and are being proved wrong on their only 'strong point'.
Good riddance to them if they get in again there'll likely be some sort of revolution!Agree (2) Alert moderator
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jaloni:
07 Nov 2007 10:04:06am
I doubt there will be any revolution. Nothing will change for the majority of people. Labor need to win otherwise they are unlikley to see government again for another ten years.
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Aunty_Nibbs:
07 Nov 2007 9:58:22am
I'm not ready to count any chickens, but I think you may be right.
Some thing that I can't understand about the 'challenging times ahead' argument is that if H & C are such maverick economic leaders, how in the world did we begin sailing into challanging economic waters?!
It doesn't matter who is at the helm, I don't think. But it should be said that most significant economic reforms this country has ever seen were legislated under Hawke/Keating, and without them H&C would never have had the dream run they've enjoyed nigh on 11 years.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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happy:
07 Nov 2007 9:41:21am
This is GREAT news for first home buyers!!! So happy!! The more rates go up the more house prices come down. Keep em coming...... One or two more raises and we will start seeing serious discounts on prices. Thanks Jonnie and keep that economy on the boil, WE WANT MORE RISES.
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jaloni:
07 Nov 2007 9:49:36am
Incorrect. Will not have an impact on first home buyers. They are already priced out of many areas. OK if you are on the outskirts of the city.
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Julian:
07 Nov 2007 9:57:14am
Yes, I couldn't quite tell if that one was tongue in cheek.
What's certain: Mortgage payments will go up and rents will go up to match them.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Alan Deakin:
07 Nov 2007 10:00:54am
Jaloni:
Since when could first home owners ever afford to buy in the more desirable areas of any city?Agree (0) Alert moderator
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jaloni:
07 Nov 2007 10:11:22am
Agree Alan to a certain extent. The most desirable parts have been expanding at a great rate so that people are being pushed out further and further.
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Boomshanka:
07 Nov 2007 10:05:07am
Disagree,
The so called housing crisis is largely due to prices being too high. This interest rate hike should provide a reality check to those that believe house prices can only go up.
If buyers are priced out then who is selling?
A fall in house prices is inevitable (as is happening in some parts of the country - albeit slowly) therefore increasing affordability!
Look to the US to see what is happening there. Japan has never recovered from the early 90's.
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shauna:
07 Nov 2007 9:52:59am
Prices wont fall whilst people are still willing to pay anything for their Mc Mansion
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cas:
07 Nov 2007 9:53:24am
We are trying to play on a global economic "level playing field." Trouble is now one else is, We cannot export rice to Japan and they kill our whales - yet, how many people have a Japanese or South Korean Plasma ?
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Richo:
07 Nov 2007 9:54:42am
As with the current government I think you are forgetting the human factor. It's not all dollars and cents, with each rate rise real people and families will loose their homes.
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Alan Deakin:
07 Nov 2007 10:03:50am
Richo:
Blame the banks and lending institutions, they know how much people earn, they have intimate experience on what people can AFFORD to repay... yet they still give out those loans and people still want them.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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rmj:
07 Nov 2007 10:15:45am
Yes BUT,
WHO deregulated them allowing this to happen.
Our woeful economic mismanagers the liberals!Agree (0) Alert moderator
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Barry:
07 Nov 2007 10:40:18am
No - the financial system was deregulated by Labor and it was one of the best (maybe the only) things they did.
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Martin:
07 Nov 2007 9:54:57am
'happy' is correct. When I bought what the mother-in-law calls "The Hovel" in 1991, I borrowed at 14% in a very flat market. The auctioneer made a lot of racket but eventually had to take a bid off the back wall to get started. I was the only real bidder and got it with a further $1,000.
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not so happy:
07 Nov 2007 9:55:52am
"happy" is wrong if he/she thinks this will push prices down. What has been driving house prices up has been supply or lack of it and taxation policy (i.e. negative gearing/ capital gains tax concessions). If there is a shortage of supply in the market place prices will be pushed up and this decision if anything will suppress new home starts. The interest rate rise will only make things harder for those who entered the market over the last 10 years i.e. young families particularly those who erroneously believed that John Howard would keep interest rates at record lows. Since interest rates and banking were deregulated government policy has had little impact on interest rates their more a product of international finance markets.
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jaloni:
07 Nov 2007 10:07:44am
I agree, Happy is wrong. You have hit the nail on the head. It is substanitially loose fiscal policy that is helping to cause what is going on with house prices. It won't change much unless some politician has the guts to change this. None of the current lot have that.
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rmj:
07 Nov 2007 9:55:59am
You appear a little deluded.
If this increase in interest rates does cause a glut of mortgage failure and houses on the market it will come at the expense of struggling families.
And your happy about that?
If house prices do drop the overall amount that you will pay will not as higher interest rates will eat up any potential savings.
This will not in fact increase housing affordability.
This will mean that Mums and Dads will go broke and their houses will be bought up bey the extremely wealthy.
I suggest that you must be extremely wealthy to be HAPPY about such a scenario.Agree (0) Alert moderator
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aw:
07 Nov 2007 9:56:52am
Ok interest raste are going up fact 1/3 of Aussies have not debt 1/3 can manage this debt the other 1/3 will need to look at either spend habits or been long sighted and put ther debt into fixed rate 12mths ago when we were fore warned.
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Tm:
07 Nov 2007 10:17:20am
Rudd has to put a postive on this
Look what Howard and Costello did to work choices when the economy was great.
Imagine what a liberal goverment would do to workers if it wasnt great.
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